Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn?s Pasture?

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Offline Nicholas Turner

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn?s Pasture?
« Reply #56 on: October 06, 2018, 01:42:29 AM »
OK,   Sorry, Nick,  My mistake....

No problem.

Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn?s Pasture?
« Reply #57 on: October 06, 2018, 03:04:11 AM »
A 6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano is the name of a particular design of cartridge. There are other 6.5 mm calibre cartridges if different designs. You can look it up online.

I don't want to. You made it sound like only a M-C could fire a 6.5 mm cartridge. Is this true or not?

Online Mitch Todd

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn?s Pasture?
« Reply #58 on: October 06, 2018, 06:27:51 AM »
A 6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano is the name of a particular design of cartridge. There are other 6.5 mm calibre cartridges if different designs. You can look it up online.

I don't want to. You made it sound like only a M-C could fire a 6.5 mm cartridge. Is this true or not?
That's not what he said at all.  He said that there a number different cartridges designed for a 6.5mm bore, but the design of these cartridges differ.

There are a number of military 6.5mm rifle cartridges out there: 6.5 Carcano, 6.5 Swedish Mauser, 6.5 Portugese, 6.5 Romanian Mauser, 6.5 Arisaka, etc. There are also a like number of civilian cartridges. While all of the bullets might satisfactorily pass through a 6.5mm barrel, the case designs differ, and a cartridge for one design won't fit in a rifle built for another.

BTW, if you spent a little more time searching, and less time making pointless arguments, you might find that the 6.5 mm round provided by Mrs Penn was a surplus Carcano round made by SMI:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=62272&search=pc-78441#relPageId=72&tab=page

BTW, Mrs Penn only said that "she saw a photograph of OSWALD in the newspaper and stated that a side view of OSWALD does not look like this person. The full face photograph, however, she believes does resemble him."




Offline Nicholas Turner

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn?s Pasture?
« Reply #59 on: October 06, 2018, 07:13:47 AM »
I don't want to. You made it sound like only a M-C could fire a 6.5 mm cartridge. Is this true or not?

That's clearly not what I said.

Sometime back you picked me up on not knowing about some piece of evidence you thought significant and said 'If you genuinely cared then you would learn the evidence, but, alas, you want me to spoon feed you instead. I am not going to waste my time.' You don't mind if I borrow it do you?
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn?s Pasture?
« Reply #60 on: October 06, 2018, 01:29:11 PM »
That's clearly not what I said.

Sometime back you picked me up on not knowing about some piece of evidence you thought significant and said 'If you genuinely cared then you would learn the evidence, but, alas, you want me to spoon feed you instead. I am not going to waste my time.' You don't mind if I borrow it do you?


"you want me to spoon feed you"

"I am not going to waste my time."

That's the smart thing to do when dealing with, Robbie....   If you try to enlighten him ....He spits in your face.

Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn?s Pasture?
« Reply #61 on: October 06, 2018, 02:04:08 PM »
That's not what he said at all.  He said that there a number different cartridges designed for a 6.5mm bore, but the design of these cartridges differ.

There are a number of military 6.5mm rifle cartridges out there: 6.5 Carcano, 6.5 Swedish Mauser, 6.5 Portugese, 6.5 Romanian Mauser, 6.5 Arisaka, etc. There are also a like number of civilian cartridges. While all of the bullets might satisfactorily pass through a 6.5mm barrel, the case designs differ, and a cartridge for one design won't fit in a rifle built for another.

BTW, if you spent a little more time searching, and less time making pointless arguments, you might find that the 6.5 mm round provided by Mrs Penn was a surplus Carcano round made by SMI:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=62272&search=pc-78441#relPageId=72&tab=page

BTW, Mrs Penn only said that "she saw a photograph of OSWALD in the newspaper and stated that a side view of OSWALD does not look like this person. The full face photograph, however, she believes does resemble him."

This is what Nicholas Turner originally said:

6.5mm Mannlicher--Carcano is a piece of ammunition.

This is what I am responding to. If you can't follow along then just ignore.

Your star witness for the JDT murder, Helen Markham, supposedly identified LHO by a profile view only so what is your point?

Still no answer on who the LHO lookalike was, huh?

Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn?s Pasture?
« Reply #62 on: October 06, 2018, 02:06:54 PM »
That's clearly not what I said.

Sometime back you picked me up on not knowing about some piece of evidence you thought significant and said 'If you genuinely cared then you would learn the evidence, but, alas, you want me to spoon feed you instead. I am not going to waste my time.' You don't mind if I borrow it do you?

Can you support your statement or not?

6.5mm Mannlicher--Carcano is a piece of ammunition.