Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?

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Offline Ted Shields

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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #322 on: September 10, 2019, 11:32:49 AM »
And you believe it. My favorite that everyone witnessed was how man was able to shoot another man who was surrounded by 70 armed officers. I bet you think that was organic

Anyone could have shot Oswald at any point over the weekend. The DJ John Peel was in the station. He wasnt a DJ at the time. Security was so poor back then,

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Offline Richard Smith

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« Reply #323 on: September 10, 2019, 02:25:04 PM »
A speculation spectacle spectacular! Bravo! BTW...according to the official timeline--Oswald shot himself in the Marine Corps.

I can't decipher a coherent point from your rambling response.  You asked why Oswald paused to shoot Tippit in the head.  A question that calls, by necessity, for speculation since only Oswald knows for sure.  After that was explained to you, you criticize the response for being speculative.  And start babbling incoherently about Oswald's time in the USMC.  Weird.  This kind of cognitive dissonance perhaps explains why you are a CTer in the first place and can never be dissuaded by any amount of facts, logic, or common sense.  It is like trying to convince a small child that there is no Santa Claus.  Almost cruel to see CTer hysterics when their fantasy starts to come unraveled.  It's like taking away their security blanket.
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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #324 on: September 10, 2019, 03:37:33 PM »
Anyone could have shot Oswald at any point over the weekend. The DJ John Peel was in the station. He wasnt a DJ at the time. Security was so poor back then,

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Here's an example of that stellar security. And at any time he could have exposed the plot that he was in on. Or that he believed set him up. So, why the silence?


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« Reply #325 on: September 10, 2019, 05:43:27 PM »
Here's an example of that stellar security. And at any time he could have exposed the plot that he was in on. Or that he believed set him up. So, why the silence?

Probably because there was no plot.

Offline Peter Kleinschmidt

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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #326 on: September 11, 2019, 05:22:55 AM »
Anyone could have shot Oswald at any point over the weekend. The DJ John Peel was in the station. He wasnt a DJ at the time. Security was so poor back then,

https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/John_F._Kennedy

The myth of government, institutional and police competency.
Good one. Anyone could do it. So that is your logic, of course, it makes the impossible possible. But will just talk what is possible, like Ruby was there the whole weekend. Every day ends in a "y" Sunday is as good as Friday or Saturday, right?. Ruby is Jewish, Sunday is after the Sabbath, the picture is so much clearer.

Turning to the assassination of JFK. Security was different then.  There is a problem, who shot Kennedy, we know Oswald didn't and we know the two men shot in the limo have wounds that did not come from  an alleged assassin in the SFW And we know  it never has been done  even in a loose reenactment or can someone who was not there do something that didn't happen there? Better find a different window, bush, fence, tree, or maybe a drone. I don't think the driver did but what is to say he didn't? Common sense, right? And I agree but the same common sense says Oswald did not shot the Gov or the Prez. Very reasonable I am
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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #327 on: September 11, 2019, 11:37:22 PM »
Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
How did LHO choose the TSBD as his workplace?

JFK AND THE UNSPEAKABLE
Why He Died and Why It Matters
by James W. Douglas

page 47

"In that March 29, 1977, interview, the last he would ever give, George de Mohrenschildt told author
Edward Jay Epstein he had "on occasion done favors" since the early 1950s for goverment officials
connected with the CIA. It was a mutually beneficial relationship. The CIA contacts then helped
de Mohrenschildt arrange profital business connections overseas.

De Mohrenschildt said that in late 1961 he had met in Dallas with the CIA's J. Walton Moore, who
began to tell him about "an ex-American Marine who had worked in an electronics factory in Minsk
for the past year and in whom there was "interest". The Baron had grown up in Minsk, as Moore seemed
to know before being told. The ex-Marine, Moore said, would be returning to the Dallas area. De
Mohrenschildt felt he was being primed.

In the summer of 1962, de Mohrenschildt said, he was handed Lee Harvey Oswald's address in Fort Worth
by "one of Moore's associates," who suggested that de Mohrenschildt meet Oswald. De Mohrenschildt
then phoned Moore to confirm such a mission and set up another mutually beneficial relationship. He
told Moore he would appreciate help from the U.S. embassy in Haiti in arranging approval by Haitian
dictator "Papa Doc" Duvalier for an oil exploration deal. Moore then gave de Mohrenschildt the go-ahead
to befriend the Oswlds, which de Mohrenschildt promptly did--with the firm understanding that he was
carrying out the CIA's wishes. "I would never have contacted Oswald in a million years if Moore had
not sanctioned it," de Mohrenschildt said in his final interview. "Too much was at stake."

On October 7, 1962, nine days before the Cuban Missle Crisis began, de Mohrenschildt urged his new
friend Lee Harvey Oswald to move to Dallas, where more of the Russian immigrants lived. Oswald took
him so seriuosly that the next day he quit his job at a Fort Worth welding company and made the
move. De Mohrenschildt then became Oswald's mentor in Dallas. The Baron's wife and daughter said it
was he who organized Oswald's securing a new job, four days after his move, with a Dallas graphic
arts compoany. Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall."


~snip~

p.177

"On October 9, 1963, one week before Lee Harvey Oswald began his job at a site overlooking the president's future parade route,
an FBI official in Washington, D.C., disconnected Oswald from a federal alarm system that was about to identify him as a threat to
national security. The FBI man's name was Marvin Gheesling. He was a supervisor in the Soviet espionage section at FBI headquarters.
His timing was remarkable. As author John Newman remarked in an analysis of this phenomenon, Gheesling "turned off the alarm switch
on Oswald literally an instant before it would have gone off."


~snip~



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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #328 on: September 12, 2019, 11:14:13 AM »
Doesn?t this strike anyone as quite odd?  I mean generally if you want to try and get away with a crime I would imagine it would help to do it where NO ONE KNOWS WHO YOU ARE!  In 1963 they did NOT have the type of equipment they have now to quickly ID you and track you via GPS and other methods, so if you are unknown this greatly increases your chances of getting away with it!  As for the claim of ?Well he wanted to be famous? we have to go by his behavior after he was arrested! Did it strike anyone as wanting to be famous?

Also, the excuse DVP gave me years ago for not committing the crime at Love Field was that he couldn?t get his rifle there without being seen!  First of all, he didn?t need ?his? rifle (something I don?t think ever existed by the way) as he could have used a pistol instead and that could have easily been hidden from a cab driver (much better than a bus scenario as again it creates less people who can remember you). 

Secondly, don?t you think the SAME logic applies to getting a ride from Wes Frazier and then lugging the rifle two to three blocks to the TSBD and then lugging it around until you hide it in the TSBD for later use?  These were people who KNEW you too by sight and in some cases by NAME!

Also, it would seem DP was a much tougher place to get away from.  At the airport he could have dropped the gun and disappeared into the crowd and then even got on a flight out of town.  This sounds much more plausible than the OFFICIAL scenario to me.

When one adds in the fact LHO was NOT very good with a rifle this would seem to make this the ONLY scenario to me.

What are your thoughts on this?

Oswald was plenty good with a rifle.

But to answer your question ("Why would LHO choose his workplace as the location for shooting JFK?"), maybe because the TSBD was a tall building on the motorcade route, he had access to the building (he worked there), there were boxes to hide behind on the sixth floor, etc?

Gosh, I dunno.

-- MWT  ;)
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