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Online Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #200 on: September 16, 2018, 05:21:33 PM »
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Why do you think that?

I don't "believe " that...I KNOW it is a fact.....  It's not hard to prove....  Paul Ernst has done an excellent job of showing that the rifle could not have been fired out of that half open window from inside the building, and the window would have to have been open wider if a gunman had tried to put the muzzle of the 40 inch rifle outside of the window.    So not only was it physically impossible...many witnesses would have seen the rifle and the gunman because the sound of gunfire would have caused people to look toward the sound of the gunfire just as motorcycle officer Baker did when he heard the first shot.   He looked up tpward the TSBD and saw NOBODY firing a rifle.   The reason he didn't see anybody firing a rifle is because there was nobody there firing a rifle ..There was only Bonnie Ray Williams and Junior Jarman behind the open windows on the fifth floor and nobody behind the window on the sixth floor.

The star witness for LBJ's cover up committee was Howard Brennan....  But they had to ignore his affidavit and his testimony in which he DESCRIBED what he saw on the sixth floor at the time of the shooting.   Brennan said that he saw a man who was in his thirties and weighed as much as 175 pounds and who was wearing light khaki clothing ( both shirt and trousers)  Brennan said the man was aiming a hunting rifle ( a "high powered rifle , possibly a 30-30 Winchester) out of a window that he was STANDING behind.

Brennan could NOT have been describing a man standing behind the SE corner window because it would have been impossible for a man to stand behind that half open window and aim a rifle out of it.

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« Reply #201 on: September 16, 2018, 05:57:35 PM »
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Howard it might come as a surprise to you but I am reconsidering the theory after reviewing the statements. Tony did not imply anything about Dougherty being the assassin. Did you see my post where I stated that I think Dougherty came up after BRW left?

This is a complex topic, maybe too much for you to comprehend.

PS only BRW gave a statement on 11/22. See above.....

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Re: Conspiracy of the Three Stooges
« Reply #202 on: September 16, 2018, 06:03:26 PM »
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I don't "believe " that...I KNOW it is a fact.....  It's not hard to prove....  Paul Ernst has done an excellent job of showing that the rifle could not have been fired out of that half open window from inside the building, and the window would have to have been open wider if a gunman had tried to put the muzzle of the 40 inch rifle outside of the window.    So not only was it physically impossible...many witnesses would have seen the rifle and the gunman because the sound of gunfire would have caused people to look toward the sound of the gunfire just as motorcycle officer Baker did when he heard the first shot.   He looked up tpward the TSBD and saw NOBODY firing a rifle.   The reason he didn't see anybody firing a rifle is because there was nobody there firing a rifle ..There was only Bonnie Ray Williams and Junior Jarman behind the open windows on the fifth floor and nobody behind the window on the sixth floor.

The star witness for LBJ's cover up committee was Howard Brennan....  But they had to ignore his affidavit and his testimony in which he DESCRIBED what he saw on the sixth floor at the time of the shooting.   Brennan said that he saw a man who was in his thirties and weighed as much as 175 pounds and who was wearing light khaki clothing ( both shirt and trousers)  Brennan said the man was aiming a hunting rifle ( a "high powered rifle , possibly a 30-30 Winchester) out of a window that he was STANDING behind.

Brennan could NOT have been describing a man standing behind the SE corner window because it would have been impossible for a man to stand behind that half open window and aim a rifle out of it.

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Re: Conspiracy of the Three Stooges
« Reply #203 on: September 16, 2018, 06:07:35 PM »
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I don't "believe " that...I KNOW it is a fact.....

I didn't say believe, I said think, but anyway ...... its not a fact.

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It's not hard to prove....  Paul Ernst has done an excellent job of showing that the rifle could not have been fired out of that half open window from inside the building, and the window would have to have been open wider if a gunman had tried to put the muzzle of the 40 inch rifle outside of the window.    So not only was it physically impossible...many witnesses would have seen the rifle and the gunman because the sound of gunfire would have caused people to look toward the sound of the gunfire just as motorcycle officer Baker did when he heard the first shot.   He looked up tpward the TSBD and saw NOBODY firing a rifle.   The reason he didn't see anybody firing a rifle is because there was nobody there firing a rifle ..There was only Bonnie Ray Williams and Junior Jarman behind the open windows on the fifth floor and nobody behind the window on the sixth floor.

Others have done analysis to show the shots most likely came from the sixth floor SE window where the snippers nest was  Also various people described seeing a rifle being withdrawn from the window plus Jarman and others reported hearing the gunshots directly above them.

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The star witness for LBJ's cover up committee was Howard Brennan....  But they had to ignore his affidavit and his testimony in which he DESCRIBED what he saw on the sixth floor at the time of the shooting.   Brennan said that he saw a man who was in his thirties and weighed as much as 175 pounds and who was wearing light khaki clothing ( both shirt and trousers)  Brennan said the man was aiming a hunting rifle ( a "high powered rifle , possibly a 30-30 Winchester) out of a window that he was STANDING behind.

Brennan could NOT have been describing a man standing behind the SE corner window because it would have been impossible for a man to stand behind that half open window and aim a rifle out of it.

So where do you think the shots were fired from?
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Re: Conspiracy of the Three Stooges
« Reply #204 on: September 16, 2018, 06:09:59 PM »
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What a lame attempt at refuting the facts.....You're pathetic, Chappy.

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Re: Conspiracy of the Three Stooges
« Reply #205 on: September 16, 2018, 07:15:00 PM »
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I donít think he saw Oswald as JohnM has proposed. He had every chance to inform them of his sighting at the DPD that afternoon when questioned. He had an alibi with Norman and Jarman. However, I donít believe his vacating the 6th floor just before the motorcade passed, allowing the shooter to perform the deed from the very area Williams had occupied is coincidental. With Williams in place on the 6th by 12.15pm a shooter simply would have found an alternate spot, likely the 7th floor directly above the SN.

Oswald would have been there from the outset, he knew the building, he would have the storage room to himself.

Windows with blinds he could pull down to avoid the sun in his eyes. The 6th floor crew might return any time if the motorcade ran late....the worst floor he could have chosen.

Worth noting that Jarman's affidavit is all about Lee and not about shots from the 6th floor. Wow.

Also worth noting is the huge delay in getting anything in writing from Norman who supposedly heard the shots.


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Re: Conspiracy of the Three Stooges
« Reply #206 on: September 16, 2018, 07:17:27 PM »
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..just came across this.....
Didn't Victoria Adams and her friend Sandra Styles testify that they entered the stairwell on the 4th floor approximately 20 seconds after the third shot?
The Warren Commission jackals completely ignored their statements. Why?
Because Oswald must have seemingly turned into the invisible man and went right by them.
Those other guys?...Who cared that their stories were all contradictory? The cops had their man!

 
 

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« Reply #207 on: September 16, 2018, 07:55:22 PM »
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Didn't Victoria Adams and her friend Sandra Styles testify that they entered the stairwell on the 4th floor approximately 20 seconds after the third shot?
The Warren Commission jackals completely ignored their statements. Why?
Because Oswald must have seemingly turned into the invisible man and went right by them.
Those other guys?...Who cared that their stories were all contradictory? The cops had their man!


As I understand it the trouble with their timings is that Adams said when they got to the first floor they met Shelley and Lovelady, but they had been watching from the steps of the TSBD then gone up to the tracks behind it before going to the bottom of the stairs. This was several minutes later, and they said they saw Truly (and an officer)going into the building whilst they were outside.

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Re: Conspiracy of the Three Stooges
« Reply #208 on: September 16, 2018, 08:08:22 PM »
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I didn't say believe, I said think, but anyway ...... its not a fact.

Others have done analysis to show the shots most likely came from the sixth floor SE window where the snippers nest was  Also various people described seeing a rifle being withdrawn from the window plus Jarman and others reported hearing the gunshots directly above them.

So where do you think the shots were fired from?

Do your own research and reasoning....Don't rely on "others"   ...who claim the shots "most likely" came from the SE corner window.   And there was NO sniper's nest....at that site.   Some loafer employee ( Givens?)  had constructed a hidden "Smokers Nook" behind that window as a place he could loaf, and smoke out of sight of the boss.   The police found a couple of spent shells there where they had been planted and assumed the site was a "Sniper's Nest" where the gunman had sat on a box and used a stack of boxes as a rifle steady rest ...in spite of the fact that the gunman could not have declined the muzzle of the rifle down onto Elm street if he had rested the rifle on top of the stack of boxes as Deputy Mooney imagined.

The shots came from the Grassy Knoll.....   LBJ and Hoover worked hard to divert the attention from the GK.....

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« Reply #209 on: September 16, 2018, 08:21:27 PM »
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Do your own research and reasoning....Don't rely on "others" 

Aren't you relying on the work of Paul Ernst?

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...who claim the shots "most likely" came from the SE corner window.   And there was NO sniper's nest....at that site.   Some loafer employee ( Givens?)  had constructed a hidden "Smokers Nook" behind that window as a place he could loaf, and smoke out of sight of the boss.   The police found a couple of spent shells there where they had been planted and assumed the site was a "Sniper's Nest" where the gunman had sat on a box and used a stack of boxes as a rifle steady rest ...in spite of the fact that the gunman could not have declined the muzzle of the rifle down onto Elm street if he had rested the rifle on top of the stack of boxes as Deputy Mooney imagined.

The shots came from the Grassy Knoll.....   LBJ and Hoover worked hard to divert the attention from the GK.....

You are free to believe all that of course but those are opinions and beliefs, not facts.
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