Conspiracy of the Three Stooges

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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Conspiracy of the Three Stooges
« Reply #357 on: October 02, 2018, 03:05:42 AM »
Actually, might not have been a good idea to use the 3 Stooges analogy in your thread title to begin with, but since you did, you're going to have to accept me and anyone else posting in this thread using Moe, Larry and Curly when discussing the Stooges involved in the 'conspiracy'.

I substitute Moe for BRW because Moe would had to have been the ringleader of the Stooge Conspiracy, and Moe was clearly the ringleader of the actual 3 Stooges.

BTW, as far as I know Jarman and Norman weren't brothers (Moe Fine and Larry Fine were) so your suggestion that I use BRW as Curly, is hereby rejected.  8)

What I meant that Jarman and Norman had a closer bond, but I think you?re smart enough to know why I suggested it. We could even use hairstyles to allocate BRW to Curley. I am not convinced that BRW was the ringleader....I mearly suggested a possible conversation. Jarman was much more mature from what I?ve seen and it may have been him that suggested the 18 year old father not to say anything given the circumstances at the time.

Offline Howard Gee

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Re: Conspiracy of the Three Stooges
« Reply #358 on: October 02, 2018, 08:46:16 AM »
What I meant that Jarman and Norman had a closer bond, but I think you?re smart enough to know why I suggested it. We could even use hairstyles to allocate BRW to Curley. I am not convinced that BRW was the ringleader....I mearly suggested a possible conversation. Jarman was much more mature from what I?ve seen and it may have been him that suggested the 18 year old father not to say anything given the circumstances at the time.

You suggested that BRW's Stooge counterpart should be Curly, because Moe and Larry were related.

But your analogy is a faulty because Williams, Jarman and Norman weren't related, much less any two of them brothers.

As far as which Stooge was the ringleader of your supposed 'conspiracy', I think it's pretty obvious that Moe/BRW would be the one.

Your imaginary Stooge conversation is similar to the one I proposed about 30 pages ago, and is pretty much the only way the Stooge Conspiracy would have been hatched.

After all, it's hard to imagine Larry and Curly volunteering out of the blue to lie for Moe.

Not that I think any such conversation actually took place at any time, whether it be on the 5th floor, stairwell, or after the Stooges were downstairs.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Conspiracy of the Three Stooges
« Reply #359 on: October 02, 2018, 12:36:35 PM »
It appears that somewhere around the time that the rifle was found and Fritz was informed that Oswald was "missing" by Truly, Fritz instructed Senkel to gather every employee who had been on the sixth floor that morning and have them taken to DPHQ to porovide an affidavit.

This was the reason Williams and the others left the TSBD prior to 2pm. We can see affidavits from Williams, Shelley, Arce, Lovelady and Dougherty. Givens was part of the flooring crew but was unable to get back inside the TSBD, but was eventually noticed and brought in later. Dougherty was not part of the flooring crew but had been on the 6th floor that morning and so the "roundup" was not "floor laying crew exclusive".

One other person who had spent time on the 6th floor that morning was Harold Norman.

Mr. BALL. Did you ever go to the sixth floor that day, that morning?
Mr. NORMAN. I can't---yes, I went up that morning during the time I think they were laying the floor up there when I went up there.
Mr. BALL. Did you help them?
Mr. NORMAN. No; I was just up there shooting the breeze.

Norman did not volunteer to Stengel and the others did not mention him it seems.

Another indicator that at this early stage there might be a reluctance to admit presence on the 6th floor?

It appears that somewhere around the time that the rifle was found and Fritz was informed that Oswald was "missing" by Truly, Fritz instructed Senkel to gather every employee who had been on the sixth floor that morning and have them taken to DPHQ to porovide an affidavit.

The rifle was discovered at about 1:22......  Roy Truly told Captain Fritz that Lee Oswald missing at around 1:30...

Truly had seen Lee Oswald in the lunchroom at about 12:32......   And at that time Lee was dismissed as a suspect by DPD officer Marrion Baker.   So what was Roy Truly's reason for reporting Lee Oswald the only employee missing??   

   

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Conspiracy of the Three Stooges
« Reply #360 on: October 03, 2018, 04:46:02 PM »
You suggested that BRW's Stooge counterpart should be Curly, because Moe and Larry were related.


You said previously that Moe Fine and Larry Fine were brothers. When I checked there were three brothers who were part of the stooges over time. They performed with Larry Fine. Moe, Shemp and Curley Howard.

How ironic.

Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Conspiracy of the Three Stooges
« Reply #361 on: October 03, 2018, 05:10:26 PM »
You said previously that Moe Fine and Larry Fine were brothers. When I checked there were three brothers who were part of the stooges over time. They performed with Larry Fine. Moe, Shemp and Curley Howard.

How ironic.

Maybe Howard's grandfather. :)

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Conspiracy of the Three Stooges
« Reply #362 on: October 03, 2018, 05:13:52 PM »
Howard has often claimed comedic talents.....farce perhaps.