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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak (new book)
« Reply #216 on: November 05, 2018, 07:57:03 PM »
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Nevertheless, it's important to take even the nuttiest conspiracy-mongers to task

This is now the third time Bill has posted this nutty video and has completely ignored all previous replies.

Never fear, he will ignore it again and probably just tell the Jim Garrison pearly gates joke one more time.




Great job pasting that Youtube link Bill!  That's some impressive research.

As for the actual video.  That's 6 minutes of life that nobody will ever get back.  Here we see a guy named Steve Shives use the usual LN tactic of argument by appeal to ridicule, without ever actually addressing any reasons for believing the narrative.

His "5 Stupid things":

1. The endless list of potential suspects

This is the usual strawman that says that every CT believes every conjecture that has ever been brought forth.  As an amusing aside he talks here about preferring the "explanation that requires the fewest assumptions" as if the WC explanation isn't absolutely loaded with assumptions.

2.  The equally endless list of possible motives

As opposed to the WC's lack of any motive.

3. The lack of a coherent counter-narrative

As opposed to the WC's lack of a coherent narrative to begin with.

4. They attract people who aren't normally conspiracy theorists

I'm not sure why he considers this "stupid".  But this may have something to do with this case being nothing like conspiracy theories like the moon landing hoax or Bigfoot, despite some LNers' best attempts to paint them with the same brush to avoid actually talking about the evidence.

5. They combine to form the perfect storm of conspiracy theories

Also not about anything stupid.  I think Steve lost his train of thought halfway though the video.  Here he shows a cute graphic with JFK's picture and the quote "Ask not what the evidence says happened.  Ask what sounds good to you".  Which in fact describes perfectly how the WC came to their conclusion.

Nice try, but a giant fail on multiple levels.

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Re: I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak (new book)
« Reply #216 on: November 05, 2018, 07:57:03 PM »


Offline Paul May

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Re: I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak (new book)
« Reply #217 on: November 06, 2018, 04:14:36 AM »
Nobody on the Internet?  Really?  And yet it?s YOU was was thrown off the ED Forum for stealing the identity of another person.  It?s YOU who refuses to debate LIVE for anybody on the internet to watch.  It is YOU who runs and hides EVERY time. So, with all reading this posting, I again CHALLENGE you to debate this case live on line.  Yes or no coward?

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak (new book)
« Reply #218 on: November 06, 2018, 09:25:02 AM »
This is now the third time Bill has posted this nutty video and has completely ignored all previous replies.

Never fear, he will ignore it again and probably just tell the Jim Garrison pearly gates joke one more time.



What, I should respond to every conspiracy nut job who will simply call everything faked anyway?

The Garrison joke is interactive, fits every conspiracist on the planet.
"John Iacoletti* reaches the Pearly Gates..." etc

What fail? You responded as per usual, yawn.

*That's right, even devil-worshipping atheists get a fair trial
And you've got a whole lot of 'splaining to do, Johnny666
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Re: I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak (new book)
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Offline Nicholas Turner

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Re: I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak (new book)
« Reply #219 on: November 06, 2018, 11:25:12 AM »
What, I should respond to every conspiracy nut job who will simply call everything faked anyway?

The Garrison joke is interactive, fits every conspiracist on the planet.
"John Iacoletti* reaches the Pearly Gates..." etc

What fail? You responded as per usual, yawn.

*That's right, even devil-worshipping atheists get a fair trial
And you've got a whole lot of 'splaining to do, Johnny666

Atheists don't worship the Devil.

Offline Steve Logan

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Re: I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak (new book)
« Reply #220 on: November 06, 2018, 03:44:28 PM »
Atheists don't worship the Devil.

Maybe that's a Canadian thing.

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Re: I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak (new book)
« Reply #220 on: November 06, 2018, 03:44:28 PM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak (new book)
« Reply #221 on: November 06, 2018, 04:20:24 PM »
What, I should respond to every conspiracy nut job who will simply call everything faked anyway?

You don't respond substantively to anything.  You just cut-and-paste other people's work, take potshots at people, and pat yourself on the back.

Offline Fred Litwin

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Excerpt of I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak now online
« Reply #222 on: November 07, 2018, 04:39:37 PM »
Chapter Two of my book, I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak, is now online for free.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/Litwin_garrison.htm

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Excerpt of I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak now online
« Reply #222 on: November 07, 2018, 04:39:37 PM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Excerpt of I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak now online
« Reply #223 on: November 07, 2018, 10:06:28 PM »
A decent, if not impartial, synopsis of the Garrison case against Clay Shaw.

Still conspicuously absent:  any of this "overwhelming evidence" that incriminates Oswald.

P.S. McAdams.  LOL.
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