Oswald's Light-Colored Jacket

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #434 on: February 09, 2018, 04:11:11 PM »
Calling Earlene Roberts "half blind" is a pathetic cop-out.  Roberts could see a police car out on the street but couldn't see Oswald as he went out the front door fifteen feet away from her?

Mr. BALL. Now, Mrs. Roberts, this deposition will be written up and you can read it if you want to and you can sign it. or you can waive the signature.
Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, you know, I can't see too good how to read. I'm completely blind in my right eye.


Bill, was Earlene Roberts a reliable witness?  If so, do you believe she witnessed a police car pull up in front of her house and honk (as she claimed)?  Because, if she lied about it, she is not a reliable witness.  If she is not a reliable witness, than ANY statements she made are "questionable".  Still churning out the same old butter eh?



Roberts mentioned the fact that Oswald was wearing a jacket as he went out the door to a radio reporter on the day of the assassination.

Despite the fact that she was bombarded by law enforcement personnel and media during the weekend of the assassination, Roberts never mentioned the police car horn honking incident until a week later, after the accused assassin was himself gunned down, which sparked whispers of a possible plot.

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #435 on: February 09, 2018, 04:34:38 PM »
Calling Earlene Roberts "half blind" is a pathetic cop-out.  Roberts could see a police car out on the street but couldn't see Oswald as he went out the front door fifteen feet away from her?

Mr. BALL. Now, Mrs. Roberts, this deposition will be written up and you can read it if you want to and you can sign it. or you can waive the signature.
Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, you know, I can't see too good how to read. I'm completely blind in my right eye.

How was her vision in her left eye?  Care to guess?

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #436 on: February 09, 2018, 04:41:50 PM »
Mr. BALL. Had you ever seen him wear that jacket before?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I can't say I did---if I did, I don't remember it.
Mr. BALL. When he came in he was in a shirt?
Mrs. ROBERTS. He was in his shirt sleeves.
Mr. BALL. What color was his shirt? Do you know?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I don't remember. I didn't pay that much attention for I was interested in the television trying to get it fixed.
Mr. BALL. Had you ever seen that shirt before or seen him wear it---the shirt, or do you know?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I don't remember---I don't know.
Mr. BALL. You say he put on a separate jacket?
Mrs. ROBERTS. A jacket.
Mr. BALL. I'll show you this jacket which is Commission Exhibit 162---have you ever seen this jacket before?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, maybe I have, but I don't remember it. It seems like the one he put on was darker than that. Now, I won't be sure, because I really don't know, but is that a zipper jacket?
Mr. BALL. Yes---it has a zipper down the front.
Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, maybe it was.

Online Bill Brown

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« Reply #437 on: February 09, 2018, 04:48:08 PM »
Mr. BALL. Had you ever seen him wear that jacket before?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I can't say I did---if I did, I don't remember it.
Mr. BALL. When he came in he was in a shirt?
Mrs. ROBERTS. He was in his shirt sleeves.
Mr. BALL. What color was his shirt? Do you know?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I don't remember. I didn't pay that much attention for I was interested in the television trying to get it fixed.
Mr. BALL. Had you ever seen that shirt before or seen him wear it---the shirt, or do you know?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I don't remember---I don't know.
Mr. BALL. You say he put on a separate jacket?
Mrs. ROBERTS. A jacket.
Mr. BALL. I'll show you this jacket which is Commission Exhibit 162---have you ever seen this jacket before?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, maybe I have, but I don't remember it. It seems like the one he put on was darker than that. Now, I won't be sure, because I really don't know, but is that a zipper jacket?
Mr. BALL. Yes---it has a zipper down the front.
Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, maybe it was.

What's your point?

Earlene Roberts wasn't willing to say whether or not CE-162 was the jacket Lee had on as he left until she was first aware that it was a zipper type jacket?
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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #438 on: February 09, 2018, 04:50:19 PM »
Mr. BALL. Had you ever seen him wear that jacket before?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I can't say I did---if I did, I don't remember it.
Mr. BALL. When he came in he was in a shirt?
Mrs. ROBERTS. He was in his shirt sleeves.
Mr. BALL. What color was his shirt? Do you know?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I don't remember. I didn't pay that much attention for I was interested in the television trying to get it fixed.
Mr. BALL. Had you ever seen that shirt before or seen him wear it---the shirt, or do you know?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I don't remember---I don't know.
Mr. BALL. You say he put on a separate jacket?
Mrs. ROBERTS. A jacket.
Mr. BALL. I'll show you this jacket which is Commission Exhibit 162---have you ever seen this jacket before?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, maybe I have, but I don't remember it. It seems like the one he put on was darker than that. Now, I won't be sure, because I really don't know, but is that a zipper jacket?
Mr. BALL. Yes---it has a zipper down the front.
Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, maybe it was.

Well done Martin.  You have debunked your own claim that Roberts might have confused Oswald's shirt for a jacket by citing testimony where she clearly distinguishes between the two.  Noting that Oswald was wearing a shirt when he arrived and a jacket when he left.   

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #439 on: February 09, 2018, 04:52:20 PM »
Well done Martin.  You have debunked your own claim that Roberts might have confused Oswald's shirt for a jacket by citing testimony where she clearly distinguishes between the two.  Noting that Oswald was wearing a shirt when he arrived and a jacket when he left.   

Not to mention, Earlene Roberts wasn't willing to say whether or not CE-162 was the jacket Lee had on as he left until she was first aware that it was a zipper type jacket.

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #440 on: February 09, 2018, 05:02:45 PM »
Well done Martin.  You have debunked your own claim that Roberts might have confused Oswald's shirt for a jacket by citing testimony where she clearly distinguishes between the two.  Noting that Oswald was wearing a shirt when he arrived and a jacket when he left.   

Only in the closed mind of a LN.

For sane rational people it is beyond obvious that this half blind, not paying much attention, woman isn't really sure of anything at all.

You and Brown can try to spin it as much as you like but with "maybe it was" you haven't got much of anything. 


You have debunked your own claim that Roberts might have confused Oswald's shirt for a jacket

That wasn't a claim. I'm not like you. I don't go round making claims I can not support. It was a suggestion of a possibility at best.

You rely on a woman who (1) is blind in one eye, (2) was paying more attention to the TV and thus had her back turned toward the living room, (3) could not have seen Oswald for more than a blink of an eye as he walked the short distance between his room and the front door and (4) isn't sure of anything. Add to it that her employer described her to the WC as somebody who makes up stories and you have one hell of witness....
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