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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #707 on: June 21, 2022, 09:46:47 AM »
Those videos showed nothing. They recreated that scene for the cameras just like in Iwo Jima.

 :D Brilliant.

So, all the officers we see in the footage, and Alyea himself, were involved in recreating this scene!

3..2..1..Action!  :D

Online Steve M. Galbraith

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« Reply #708 on: June 21, 2022, 03:57:02 PM »
:D Brilliant.

So, all the officers we see in the footage, and Alyea himself, were involved in recreating this scene!

3..2..1..Action!  :D
Geezus, just when you thought they hit absolute rock bottom they find another level. When did they do this recreation? How did they stage all of this? Are there any limits to what can be done? It seems there isn't.

The film was shown on live TV at the time. Alyea said he filmed the search and discovery and then when the film was full he took it out of the camera and dropped it out a window to a courier below who carried it to the TV studio/station.. Correction: Alyea said he tossed the film to a colleague who was just outside the "front door" (not sure what he meant) and it was rushed to the TV station. Once there it was developed and shown live.

Alyea: "I started to throw it [i.e., the film] out of the building but being so close and knowing that we had the other film, I wanted our station to be the first to show a film of the assassination. A A.J. L'Hoste was under the window. I yelled out to him. In actuality I tossed the film out the front door to Ron Reiland who had gotten back from covering the apprehension of Oswald at the Texas Theater."

So when did they have the the time to recreate this? And where did they do this? They got all of these "actors" to do this? What the heck is the claim now?

If the police didn't allow Alyea to film this the claim would be that that denial was done to prevent the filming of the staging and planting of the rifle and other evidence. But they did allow Alyea to film it and it's still not accepted. And if they're planting all of this why in the heck would you allow someone to film it all?
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Online David Von Pein

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #709 on: June 21, 2022, 04:25:31 PM »
...why in the heck would you allow someone to film it all?

Exactly!

"The very fact that a television news cameraman was allowed to film a lot of the activity on that sixth floor just after the assassination of the President is practically proof enough ALL BY ITSELF that the Dallas police were not planting and/or manipulating any of the evidence on the sixth floor of the Book Depository on 11/22/63." -- DVP; January 2014

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/alyea-film.html
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Offline Paul J Cummings

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« Reply #710 on: June 21, 2022, 04:42:47 PM »
When filming of the snipers nest was that all new? Fritz came over picked up the bullets and threw them back down. How long after the last shot did the cameraman come onto the 6th floor in the TSBD?

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« Reply #711 on: June 21, 2022, 04:48:49 PM »
So as soon as the last shot was fired Alyea just ran immediately to the 6th floor and started filming? Of course not unless by some miracle they forgot to include him going up with Truly and Baker. What time did Alyea start filiming? 12:35? 12:55? 1:15PM? How long was it?


:D Brilliant.

So, all the officers we see in the footage, and Alyea himself, were involved in recreating this scene!

3..2..1..Action!  :D

Offline Paul J Cummings

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« Reply #712 on: June 21, 2022, 04:50:21 PM »
They also probably believe the filming of the US flag on Iwo Jima in WWII wasn't recreated either for the media.

Agree. It does look like the "discovery" of the rifle was recreated.

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« Reply #713 on: June 21, 2022, 08:37:35 PM »
Since mentioning Tom Alyea here are his own words from Tom Alyea Facts and Photo's from Connie Kritzbergs "Secrets from the Sixth Floor Window pg 39-46.

"I do however know that Officer Mooney was present when the rifle was found because I took film of him at the scene. He is shown talking to another detective, but this was nearly an hour after the sniper's location was found at the window."

"Fritz then walked to the casings, picked them up and held them in his hand over the top of the boxes for me to get a close-up shot of the evidence. I filmed about eight seconds of a close-up shot of the shell casings in Captain Fritz's hand. I stopped filming, and thanked him. I do not recall if he placed them in his pocket or returned them back to the floor, because I was preoccupied with recording other views of the crime scene. I have been asked many times if I thought it was peculiar that the Captain of Homicide picked up evidence with his hands. Actually, that was the first thought that came to me when he did it, but I rationalized that he was the homicide expert and no prints could be taken from spent shell casings. Therefore, any photograph of shell casings taken after this, is staged and not correct. It is highly doubtful that the shell casings that appear in Dallas police photos of the crime scene are the same casings that were found originally."

"Nothing in the way of evidence was found so we retraced our search back down, floor by floor. Shortly after we arrived back on the 6th floor, Deputy Eugene Boone located the assassin's rifle Salmost completely hidden by some overhanging boxes near the stairwell. I filmed it as it was found. In my shot, the figure of Captain Fritz is standing within the enclosure next to the rifle."

It was over an hour before they found the rifle. So for those of you who think Alyea was Johnny on the spot filming he himself said this in regards to the time of finding finding the rifle. While I admit I used the wrong words in saying "recreated" the more accurate way of saying gun and bullets were staged. I was thinking of how the famous photograph of raising the US flag on Iwo Jima was recreated to mark the event for photo and filming. I do acknowledge staging is a better phrase then recreating the scene. For that I apologize.

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