Roger Craig

[John Iacoletti]

He did say. He was wearing blue clothing, yes, as I have said before. He also mentioned other clothing which was correct.

You mean that brown shirt with the "little silverlike stripe"?

I think I asked before about what colour trousers Oswald wore to work but don't remember being shown the evidence. Would be happy to see it.

Black.  CE 158



But he supposedly told Fritz that he changed his pants at the rooming house.  However, I don't see any blue pants in the evidence exhibits.

[John Iacoletti]

Why would you post a fake picture in an attempt to refute the Tom Alyea film which clearly shows the rifle was laying on it's right side with the sling side (left side) up.  ?

I know that's the Walt Fabrication, but you don't know what boxes they moved before the Alyea clip starts.  In fact the whole Alyea clip could be a recreation.

[Walt Cakebread]

You mean that brown shirt with the "little silverlike stripe"?

Black.  CE 158



But he supposedly told Fritz that he changed his pants at the rooming house.  However, I don't see any blue pants in the evidence exhibits.

he supposedly told Fritz that he changed his pants at the rooming house.

Why supposedly??    There are several reports of the interrogations from several sources that confirm that Lee told them that he went to his room and changed his clothes before going to the theater.  (See Hosty / Bookhout report for 11/ 23 /63 on page 612 of WR)  On page 622 FBI agent James Bookhout's report says....quote...He stated after arriving at the apartment he changed his shirt and trousers because they were dirty. He described his dirty clothing as being a reddish colored, long sleeved shirt with a BUTTON DOWN  COLLAR and gray colored trousers.

And on page 626 Inspector Kelly writes in his report... "He went home changed his trousers and shirt, put his shirt in a dresser. This was a red shirt and he put it with his dirty clothes. He described the shirt as having a BUTTON DOWN COLLAR and of a reddish color. The trousers were gray colored. 


There's no good reason to doubt that Lee went to his room and changed his clothes....and he was NOT wearing any BLUE workman's clothing...   And to those who argue that he was wearing the same shirt the entire day and did not change his clothes....Then show me the BUTTON DOWN  COLLAR on the arrest shirt.    I know the FBI found fibers on the butt of the rifle that they said matched the shirt that Lee was wearing at the theater when he was arrested....BUT ....  Their tale does not add up .....

[Walt Cakebread]

I know that's the Walt Fabrication, but you don't know what boxes they moved before the Alyea clip starts.  In fact the whole Alyea clip could be a recreation.

I know that's the Walt Fabrication,

Thank you....  It certainly DID take a lot of study and effort to construct that "fabrication" ...and it's nice of you to recognize the sturdy construction.

you don't know what boxes they moved before the Alyea clip starts.

You're right....  But the police all swore that NOTHING was touched and no boxes moved prior to Alyea   Detective Day lifting the rifle ....Based on your statement here, I assume that you agree with me that they were lying....and boxes were in fact moved prior to Day picking up the rifle.

The Alyea film clip definitely shows the rifle laying on it's right side with the left side up ....  Now then let's see if I can get this through your thick skull....  If the rifle had been positioned as it is seen in the "on situ" photo With the trigger guard / magazine down and the left hand mounted scope up and supported by boxes ...Then if the boxes were removed the laws of physics would cause the rifle to topple to the left ( because of the weight of the scope off to the left of center)...   Thus the LEFT side of the rifle would have been down and detective Day could not have reached down and grabbed the leather sling, because it would have been on the opposite side of the rifle. 

[John Iacoletti]

Thank you....  It certainly DID take a lot of study and effort to construct that "fabrication" ...and it's nice of you to recognize the sturdy construction.

I recognize your sturdy imagination...

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,99.0.html

You're right....  But the police all swore that NOTHING was touched and no boxes moved prior to Alyea lifting the rifle ....Based on your statement here, I assume that you agree with me that they were lying....and boxes were in fact moved prior to Day picking up the rifle.

I didn't know that Alyea ever lifted the rifle, but you're right:  we have plenty of reasons not to trust anything that the Dallas police officers swore to.

The Alyea film clip definitely shows the rifle laying on it's right side with the left side up ....  Now then let's see if I can get this through your thick skull....  If the rifle had been positioned as it is seen in the "on situ" photo With the trigger guard / magazine down and the left hand mounted scope up and supported by boxes ...Then if the boxes were removed the laws of physics would cause the rifle to topple to the left ( because of the weight of the scope off to the left of center)...   Thus the LEFT side of the rifle would have been down and detective Day could not have reached down and grabbed the leather sling, because it would have been on the opposite side of the rifle.

Wouldn't that depend on which boxes were moved?

[Walt Cakebread]

I recognize your sturdy imagination...

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,99.0.html

I didn't know that Alyea ever lifted the rifle, but you're right:  we have plenty of reasons not to trust anything that the Dallas police officers swore to.

Wouldn't that depend on which boxes were moved?

I didn't know that Alyea ever lifted the rifle, but you're right:  we have plenty of reasons not to trust anything that the Dallas police officers swore to.

I didn't know that Alyea ever lifted the rifle,


Ha ha..Ya caught me....  I meant Detective Day lifting the rifle....

[Walt Cakebread]

I recognize your sturdy imagination...

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,99.0.html

I didn't know that Alyea ever lifted the rifle, but you're right:  we have plenty of reasons not to trust anything that the Dallas police officers swore to.

Wouldn't that depend on which boxes were moved?

WF9: Tom Alyea filmed the rifle after the clip had slid out.


Please correct this entry.....  Tom Alyea DID NOT film the rifle AFTER the clip slid out.....

Tom Alyea was filming Day as Day dusted the rifle for finger prints behind the sunlit window at the NW corner of the sixth floor.   As detective Day worked with the rifle and turned it in various positions the clip which was loose in magazine was sliding around inside the magazine.  At one point the clip slid out far enough so that the light colored brass was visible. The clip was about 1/4 inch out of the magazine when Tom Alyea's camera recorded it in that position.