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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #805 on: June 26, 2022, 07:45:01 PM »
Alyea trashed himself, as did Rowland, as did Craig. I am sure Kritzberg does not sing Alyea's praises, he left her to hang, dangle, and twist in the wind. What did she do to get that treatment? She made the mistake of interviewing him and then writing about what he stated. Obviously can't believe a word he says.

Obviously not going to hold Alyea to the same level of proof as what has been required of 100% of the other witnesses. Take Brennan stating he saw the rifle fired is a great example. If it was Alyea there would be no question. It seems to be OK that Alyea trashed the whole DPD without a single shred of proof and it gets posted as if it were a fact.

Obviously can't believe a word he says.

You could be right....If you can prove that Tom Alyea's film of the recovery of the rifle (carcano) is a lie.

I certainly don't believe some of the stuff that Alyea says, Like the Soda Bottle and the chicken bones being on the 5th floor....

Alyea may have seen a soda bottle and chicken bones on the fifth floor but those were not the items that many others saw in the SE corner of the sixth floor.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #806 on: June 26, 2022, 08:05:47 PM »
Yet still paraffin test came back negative on Oswald's cheek.

Paraffin tests were not allowed in court

Then why were the tests run, you might ask
_So critics couldn't charge that, well, they weren't tested

And you might also ask that if paraffin tests were illegal in court, then why were suspects threatened with paraffin tests by the cops?
_Make sure you figure that one out by the next time you get arrested

Offline Paul J Cummings

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« Reply #807 on: June 26, 2022, 08:42:37 PM »
So you're not disputing the paraffin test were negative? So the cops gave him the paraffin test knowing in the court of law it would not be allowed? It was years later after 1963 before paraffin tests were not used. If that test had come back positive would not have had the DPD used it as evidence?

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Paraffin tests were not allowed in court

Then why were the tests run, you might ask
_So critics couldn't charge that, well, they weren't tested

And you might also ask that if paraffin tests were illegal in court, then why were suspects threatened with paraffin tests by the cops?
_Make sure you figure that one out by the next time you get arrested

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #808 on: June 27, 2022, 12:28:22 AM »
Paraffin tests are run for the same reason polygraph tests are run: to try to intimidate a suspect into making a confession. The actual results don’t even matter, because cops can and do lie to suspects about what evidence they have.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #809 on: June 27, 2022, 01:47:40 AM »
Paraffin tests are run for the same reason polygraph tests are run: to try to intimidate a suspect into making a confession. The actual results don’t even matter, because cops can and do lie to suspects about what evidence they have.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #810 on: June 27, 2022, 02:21:46 AM »
So you're not disputing the paraffin test were negative? So the cops gave him the paraffin test knowing in the court of law it would not be allowed? It was years later after 1963 before paraffin tests were not used. If that test had come back positive would not have had the DPD used it as evidence?

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It was years later after 1963 before paraffin tests were not used
_I don't even know if actual tests were even presented or run on actual suspects under interrogation
Just the threat of same in interrogation might be enough to panic the poor bugger if he was scared enough

Offline Paul J Cummings

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« Reply #811 on: June 27, 2022, 02:47:49 AM »
I'm not disputing threats. Just like how they manipulated in getting his palm prints to show up on the rifle. Ignoring the cheeks but discussing with the media about the palm prints. They can't have it both ways.

It was years later after 1963 before paraffin tests were not used
_I don't even know if actual tests were even presented or run on actual suspects under interrogation
Just the threat of same in interrogation might be enough to panic the poor bugger if he was scared enough