Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?

[Nicholas Turner]

Do you know how the WC could have easily verified if Rowland was telling the truth on seeing a tall, thin African-American male in the SE corner at 12.15 pm?

Go for it.

[Steve Taylor]

You took LSD by choice, you weren't subjected to "experimentation" designed to take over your freewill.

What the CIA did was no different to the inhumane experiments done by the Nazis.

Dulles had a long association with them during WWII.

"Later, when Allen Dulles served as the United States? top spy in continental Europe during World War II, he blatantly ignored Roosevelt?s policy of unconditional surrender and pursued his own strategy of secret negotiations with Nazi leaders."

"At Camp King, CIA scientists and their German colleagues subjected victims to dangerous combinations of drugs?including Benzedrine, Pentothal-Natrium, LSD, and mescaline?under a research protocol that stipulated, ?Disposal of the body is not a problem.? More than sixteen hundred of the Nazi scientists recruited for U.S. research projects like this would be comfortably resettled with their families in America under a CIA program known as Operation Paperclip."

Do you really think Dulles really "retired" when he resigned?

I agree with everything you said Tony.  MK stood for mind control, but instead of labelling it MC, they used the German words for it which I have forgotten.  The reason I used the example of Washington was that I felt there was a more intense effort here than in other locations.  If LSD is used in the correct way, it is fantastic.  But if used in the wrong way, it can be very harmful.  We all had to learn by trial and error back then.  Dulles was fired, because JFK recognized, like you and I, the monster and traitor he was.

[Nicholas Turner]

Why don't you have a go Nicholas?

Why don't you just say what you meant? I'd rather not play games.

[Nicholas Turner]

Do you know who was up on the 6th floor after 12 noon who just happen to be a tall, thin African-American male TSBD employee?

Yes.

[Nicholas Turner]

Do you think Rowland saw Williams, who can be described as African-American, male, tall and slim, in the SE corner of the 6th floor at 12.15 pm?

I think he mentioned an elderly African-American man hanging out of the window on the sixth floor sometime before he saw the man with a gun, which he said was at 12.15. I understand Williams was on the fifth floor at the time if the shooting and wasn't elderly.

I have come to this forum without any axe to grind. I have some knowledge of the assassination and my view is that there was no conspiracy. I have not studied the case day in and day out as some others have, and perhaps this is a good thing. I am open to hear from others who are more familiar with the case but will ask questions and put an alternative view if I hold one. This may or may nit be unusual on thus forum  but it would help me if people were clear about the points they are making. I don't want to play games as I said.

[Bill Chapman]

Williams was on the 6th floor and then went to the 5th floor after 12.25 pm. He went to the fifth floor because he heard Norman and Jarman below him. We know that both men didn't arrive until ~12.25 pm. It meant that Williams was on the same open floor as an armed gunman for 10 minutes.

No one is able to ascertain someone's age from where Rowland was standing on Houston street. However he got the gender, ethnicity and body type spot on. We know Williams was on the 6th floor after 12 noon eating his chicken lunch. We know that, prior to it being moved, there was a lunch sack and chicken piece on a box in the so called SN.

Who do you think left them there?

I don't play games either and Rowland's observation had nothing to do with a conspiracy.

Rowland's observations wavered somewhat

[Nicholas Turner]

Williams was on the 6th floor and then went to the 5th floor after 12.25 pm. He went to the fifth floor because he heard Norman and Jarman below him. We know that both men didn't arrive until ~12.25 pm. It meant that Williams was on the same open floor as an armed gunman for 10 minutes.

No one is able to ascertain someone's age from where Rowland was standing on Houston street. However he got the gender, ethnicity and body type spot on. We know Williams was on the 6th floor after 12 noon eating his chicken lunch. We know that, prior to it being moved, there was a lunch sack and chicken piece on a box in the so called SN.

Who do you think left them there?

I don't play games either and Rowland's observation had nothing to do with a conspiracy.

That's good.