Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?

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Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #133 on: September 10, 2018, 03:58:32 PM »
BRW said he was back up on the sixth floor by noon, and for 10, 12, 15 minutes. Wasn't the parading dude seen at around 12:15? Seems that leaves some leeway for BRW having buggered off to join his buddies in the meantime.

I maintain that Oswald could have been doing a final check of firing positions, then hot-dogged?for himself?with the post arms thing.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #134 on: September 10, 2018, 04:04:20 PM »
Maybe read more post less

That's helpful, 2-shot Jack
And tell us Rowland's motivation

Offline Howard Gee

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #135 on: September 10, 2018, 04:27:19 PM »
OK, let's assume that Arnie saw a gunman on the 6th floor. Since he asked Babs if she wanted to see a Secret Service agent, that's a reasonable assumption.

Now, he could have been wrong, just like he was mistaken about the age of the person on the other end of the floor. Or about how far the guman was from the window.

But let's say he was right.

What precludes the gunman from seeing BRW before BRW sees him? After all, Arnie only saw the gunman for a few seconds.

BRW is busy munching on his sammich and looking out the window, right ?

Maybe the gunman retreats into the stairwell contemplating what to do next and then luckily for him, BRW departs to join his buddies - and the plan is back on.

Possible ?

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #136 on: September 10, 2018, 06:22:46 PM »
  Rowlands thought the two people below the SN window were two black women! 
Where did he say that?

Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #137 on: September 10, 2018, 06:37:04 PM »


It's been pointed that if Williams was in the SN corner, he couldn't see over to the SW corner (above: view at SW corner looking east). Rowlands thought the two people below the SN window were two black women! So it's anyone's guess what he actually saw

You should read the testimony more closely, Jerry. The two black women he saw he said were on the second floor.

"Mr. ROWLAND - Those pair of windows. I think this was all on that floor.
Here on this floor.
Mr. SPECTER - Indicating the second floor?
Mr. ROWLAND - Yes.
Mr. SPECTER - Circle the windows and mark it with a "0" if you will.
Mr. ROWLAND - I think it was this pair immediately over the door, and this pair.
Mr. SPECTER - Mark one "0" and one "D," if you will.
(Witness marking.)

Mr. ROWLAND - Here I know there were two Negro women, I think.
Mr. SPECTER - Indicating window "0." You say two Negro women?
Mr. ROWLAND - Yes.
Mr. SPECTER - And were those women each in one window, both in one window or what?
Mr. ROWLAND - They were one in each window. Then at the window "D" there was one, one window open.
Mr. SPECTER - Which was that, indicate that by an arrow, if you please.
(Witness marking.)

Mr. ROWLAND - Here I know there were two Negro women, I think.
Mr. SPECTER - Indicating window "0." You say two Negro women?
Mr. ROWLAND - Yes.
Mr. SPECTER - And were those women each in one window, both in one window or what?
Mr. ROWLAND - They were one in each window. Then at the window "D" there was one, one window open.
Mr. SPECTER - Which was that, indicate that by an arrow, if you please.

(Witness marking.)
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #138 on: September 10, 2018, 08:49:54 PM »
..your expectations of immediate responses assumes that people are spending all their time sitting on every post that pops up.
Don't you?

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #139 on: September 10, 2018, 10:10:55 PM »
Barbara was with him the whole time that he was speaking with the agents and said he didn't tell the agents about a second person.

Speaking of giving different answers...

Mr. BELIN. DO you know whether or not he told them, the police officers, that there was any other person on the sixth floor that he saw?
Mrs. ROWLAND. He never said that there was another person on the sixth floor, in my presence, that I can remember.
Mr. BELIN. Were you present when he was with the police officers?
Mrs. ROWLAND. At times.
Mr. BELIN. On Sunday morning, November 24th?
Mrs. ROWLAND. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. Were you personally with him throughout the time that he was
with the police officers?
Mrs. ROWLAND. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. And he, in your presence, never said that he saw anyone on the sixth floor other than the man with the rifle?
Mrs. ROWLAND. No. He never said in my presence that there was another man other than the man with the rifle on the sixth floor.