My theory documented for the last time. May the Files be with me.

Users Currently Browsing This Topic:
0 Members

Author Topic: My theory documented for the last time. May the Files be with me.  (Read 64538 times)

Offline Lee Wotton

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 168
Re: My theory documented for the last time. May the Files be with me.
« Reply #56 on: January 20, 2018, 06:25:23 PM »
Lee,

Can you tell me under what conditions Prouty said this?
When and where?
Is this online anywhere?

Thanks,

Steve Thomas

Steve, it was in his book; not The Secret Team but the book about JFK, CIA and Vietnam.  i'll dig out a full reference when I can

Offline Steve Thomas

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 64
Re: My theory documented for the last time. May the Files be with me.
« Reply #57 on: January 20, 2018, 08:16:33 PM »

1. If Warner brought those agents, Rybka and Lawton, to lunch at Love Field then it is highly
likely he was using the 30's station wagon for SS agents either driven by himself or a DPD officer.


Dan,

Not necessarily. In his Report, Warner said that he helped Rybyka and Lawton secure AFI and AFII, and then they went to Love Field for lunch.
I'm assuming they went to the airport terminal. Rybka's and Lawton's job was to guard the plane, and they would not have wanted to stray too far away. I don't know if the terminal was within walking distance of where the planes were parked, but even if they weren't, Warner, being a local boy, would probably have had his own car.
I don't believe he was in car 39.

Steve Thomas

Offline Dan DAlimonte

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 171
Re: My theory documented for the last time. May the Files be with me.
« Reply #58 on: January 20, 2018, 08:37:45 PM »
Dan,

Not necessarily. In his Report, Warner said that he helped Rybyka and Lawton secure AFI and AFII, and then they went to Love Field for lunch.
I'm assuming they went to the airport terminal. Rybka's and Lawton's job was to guard the plane, and they would not have wanted to stray too far away. I don't know if the terminal was within walking distance of where the planes were parked, but even if they weren't, Warner, being a local boy, would probably have had his own car.
I don't believe he was in car 39.



Steve Thomas

Thanks, Steve.  But I still have this quote in black and white on the misplaced page.
Secret Service -- outer perimeter -- they are being brought back
and the others on the same said page.

Btw ... was Warner assigned to Love Field or just visiting?
« Last Edit: January 20, 2018, 09:09:25 PM by Dan DAlimonte »

Offline Steve Thomas

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 64
Re: My theory documented for the last time. May the Files be with me.
« Reply #59 on: January 20, 2018, 09:38:43 PM »

Btw ... was Warner assigned to Love Field or just visiting?

Dan,

In his Report,  https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh25/html/WC_Vol25_0408b.htm
Warner said that he was assigned to Love Field to help in advanced preparation in anticipation of the President's arrival.
He said he got there about 10:30.

Steve Thomas

Offline Dan DAlimonte

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 171
Re: My theory documented for the last time. May the Files be with me.
« Reply #60 on: January 20, 2018, 10:06:43 PM »
Dan,

In his Report,  https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh25/html/WC_Vol25_0408b.htm
Warner said that he was assigned to Love Field to help in advanced preparation in anticipation of the President's arrival.
He said he got there about 10:30.

Steve Thomas

Thank you. 

May the saga continue.  If I'm right, I'm right.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.  I hope there's a definitive answer coming.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2018, 10:15:28 PM by Dan DAlimonte »

Offline Lee Wotton

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 168
Re: My theory documented for the last time. May the Files be with me.
« Reply #61 on: January 21, 2018, 10:02:15 AM »
Dan, some background information on Redbird Airport and Tosh Plumlee confirming their journey back to Redbird via Oakcliff and the fact they waited for others to return before departing but left without some of them.  Were they arrested and taken to the Sherrif's office away from all the fuss, identified by Lansdale and released like the tramps?

The abort team sounds like a cover story to me with maybe the pilots not knowing the real intention.

http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/toshfiles.htm

Offline Lee Wotton

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 168
Re: My theory documented for the last time. May the Files be with me.
« Reply #62 on: January 21, 2018, 10:11:12 AM »
Dan, some background information on Redbird Airport and Tosh Plumlee confirming their journey back to Redbird via Oakcliff and the fact they waited for others to return before departing but left without some of them.  Were they arrested and taken to the Sherrif's office away from all the fuss, identified by Lansdale and released like the tramps?

The abort team sounds like a cover story to me with maybe the pilots not knowing the real intention.

http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/toshfiles.htm

Note they flew to Houston where Ferrie, another pilot, was waiting at the nearby ice skating rink glued to the payphone there.

The last minute change of destination was made by Rioja "because of the unexpected assassination".  Maybe Rioja was the only one of the two pilots in the know.

With regards Warner being assigned to Love Field for preparations perhaps his assignment ended once AFI and AFII and the SS landed and the motorcade had left?  Maybe they lied about staying on the airport site for lunch as they breached their orders?  The SS were not good at discipline always