Was the Stemmons Freeway sign removed?

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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Was the Stemmons Freeway sign removed?
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2018, 11:44:07 PM »
         Drop your own head Downward and see what you get below the chin. Both the individuals atop the Limo have their Heads a LEVEL position. The Double Chin and Receding Hairline of the one guy make this a Slam Dunk. He ain't SA Clint Hill. Clint Hill is doing just as SA Youngblood did with LBJ. Hill is laying atop/protecting Jackie as he was assigned to do. As Jackie said when she did her "Camelot" interview 1 week following the assassination, "Then Clint Hill, he loved us, he was the first man in the car.......... WE ALL LAY DOWN in the car. I believe what she is describing occurred at the same time the Officer Chaney/Lead Car Event happened. The Lead Car and the JFK Limo came to a STOP during this time period.

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Both the individuals atop the Limo have their Heads a LEVEL position.

No Royell, shouting out at the top of your lungs that the Clint Hill heads are "LEVEL" won't make it so, we see Clint shift between looking straight ahead and then down more towards the horror in the back seat, what compounds Hill's double chin is the fact that he's also leaning back. The sunlight flaring off the top of Clint's head simply gives the appearance of a larger area, look at the same specular highlight as seen on the edge of the front windscreen and we see the same effect. And finally look at the billowing jacket over Hill's left shoulder and the way that the random folds and resulting shadows line up.



Btw photo analysis has never been your forte, yet you persist and keep thinking up new and improved ways to make you look the Fool, why?

JohnM
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Offline Steve Taylor

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Re: Was the Stemmons Freeway sign removed?
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2018, 12:03:22 PM »
What do we know about Roberts speaking on the radio at Z255 to a man on the DalTex fire escape? Was that something testified to, or found recorded somewhere? And what do we know about the person on the DalTex fire escape?

  Jake, there is no known evidence that the 2 individuals are talking to each other.  This is only a logical deduction or hypothesis that I formed after finding this very large Altgens following a search based upon size in March 2016.  As it now looks like this version has been deleted from Google, I've posted it below.  Download it, zoom in and out, and decide if it makes sense to you.
  In fairness, I posted this photo last year, before the hacking, and a member who claimed to be a photo analyst said the third floor window was closed.  I was shocked upon learning that, as I see something totally different.  However I accepted his conclusion.  Now I am wondering if what appeared to him as window glare, is actually smoke from rifles or cigars.  However the former member did make the concession that the second floor shooter is possible.  Some disagree.  Of course the alleged radioman/supervisor is located between both.   
  As far as I know, no identification has ever been made of my alleged supervisor, despite this person occupying the most strategic point of view, in probably the best sniper location in Texas.  I'll spare you all the details.  But I have made a further hypothesis that this individual is David Morales. You can read a little about him here:
http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKmorales.htm

   

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Re: Was the Stemmons Freeway sign removed?
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2018, 04:12:42 PM »
No Royell, shouting out at the top of your lungs that the Clint Hill heads are "LEVEL" won't make it so, we see Clint shift between looking straight ahead and then down more towards the horror in the back seat, what compounds Hill's double chin is the fact that he's also leaning back. The sunlight flaring off the top of Clint's head simply gives the appearance of a larger area, look at the same specular highlight as seen on the edge of the front windscreen and we see the same effect. And finally look at the billowing jacket over Hill's left shoulder and the way that the random folds and resulting shadows line up.



Btw photo analysis has never been your forte, yet you persist and keep thinking up new and improved ways to make you look the Fool, why?

JohnM

         The hairline being referred to is in reference to the left temple region going Back toward the rear of the head. Not the Top of the head. The more you goof with the images the clearer the difference between the 2 individuals is made apparent. Even the Noses are Not the same shape. The guy with the double chin has more of a rounded/bulb nose vs Hill's Sharp Nose. And try and stick to the subject. Your insults do nothing to further the discussion.

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Re: Was the Stemmons Freeway sign removed?
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2018, 05:52:18 PM »
         The hairline being referred to is in reference to the left temple region going Back toward the rear of the head. Not the Top of the head. The more you goof with the images the clearer the difference between the 2 individuals is made apparent. Even the Noses are Not the same shape. The guy with the double chin has more of a rounded/bulb nose vs Hill's Sharp Nose. And try and stick to the subject. Your insults do nothing to further the discussion.

So what are you trying to posit? That Hill jumped out and a look alike second replaced him? For what purpose? The second pic shows Hill without the sunglasses which he states were blown off as the limo pegged 75 mph on Stemmons Freeway.  There were plenty of folks lined up along Stemmons (with accompanying photos) and none reported the car stopped??

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Was the Stemmons Freeway sign removed?
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2018, 06:39:54 PM »
Meanwhile gents ...back to the TOPIC... a groundskeeper had testified that the signs were in fact moved around.
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Mr. HUDSON - There were two of them that wasn't too far apart right throught here - them signs was - one was right along in here and the other one was either further up, I guess. It's not in that picture - I don't believe. Now, they have moved some of those signs. They have moved the R.L. Thornton Freeway sign and put up a Stemmons sign.
Mr. LIEBELER - They have? They have moved it?
Mr. HUDSON - Yes, sir.
When were the signs moved? Yesterday...three years ago???
If it was years before...why bring it up?
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Mr. LIEBELER - How much time do you think passed from the time the first shot was fired untill the second shot was fired, can you make any estimate about that?
Mr. HUDSON - Oh, probably 2 minutes.
Mr. LIEBELER - As much as 2 minutes?
Mr. HUDSON - It might not have been that long.
Hudson meant to say seconds between shots I'm sure...
Another ba-bam sound?
Why didn't counsel clarify some of Mr Hudson's testimony?
Answer...He didn't really want to.

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Re: Was the Stemmons Freeway sign removed?
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2018, 08:16:55 PM »
So what are you trying to posit? That Hill jumped out and a look alike second replaced him? For what purpose? The second pic shows Hill without the sunglasses which he states were blown off as the limo pegged 75 mph on Stemmons Freeway.  There were plenty of folks lined up along Stemmons (with accompanying photos) and none reported the car stopped??

    I don't know if you are familiar with the DPD Motorcycle Officer Chaney/Lead Car Event. If not, you need to bone up on it. There is No dispute that this Event did happen. I believe the JFK Limo and the Lead Car were Stopped when this Event occurred. The stopping of the Limo was SA Hill's opportunity to leave his spread eagle position atop the rear of the car. As Jackie is quoted a little over a week after the assassination, "Then Clint Hill, he loved us, he was the first man IN THE CAR.... We ALL lay down In The Car". SA Youngblood was assigned to protect LBJ. When shots were fired he jumped into the back seat of LBJ's car and lay across/atop LBJ. Clint Hill was assigned to protect Jackie. I believe at the 1st opportunity Hill lay across/atop Jackie inside the Limo exactly as she described. I wouldn't be surprised if this course of action when under fire was SS Protocol. 
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Offline Doug Easterly

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Re: Was the Stemmons Freeway sign removed?
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2018, 03:13:44 PM »
I think Hill took the position he was protecting both. Jackie was wrong, he didnt lay on them, they were already down. Then again, Jackie never remembered climbing out on the trunk to grab a piece of JFKs skull. Its conceivable the Curry car and limo stopped briefly side by side under the security of the overpass as word was quickly passed to Curry that JFK was indeed hit by the fire. Im not sure any of the film or pictures show that very brief stoppage.