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Did Astronomy Play into Shot Targeting?
Joe Elliott:
--- Quote from: James Hackerott on August 18, 2018, 05:35:38 AM ---Joe, thank you very much for your effort to respond to this thread. I basically agree with everything you wrote about the sun at 12:30. This would be all well and good, but I am not really concerned with the sun reflecting from a perfectly flat water surface. I'm demonstrating with simulation and actual camera video taken a little over a week before 11/22 that random wave fronts formed via wind, or fountains in the video of 20001114 at 12:23 cause random reflections. The 11:45 video was meant to demonstrate those random reflections. The 20001114 12:23 reflections, a little hard to see, are coming from the pool's fountain, as the much taller and fuller trees to the west of the pool in 2000 and still today shade the north section of the pool at 12:30 on November 22.
It is my contention that at least some random sunlight glare would be observed in the SN windows, at 12:30, and would be distracting to a shooter with those reflections in direct or periphery vision.
Again, thank you for your input and I'd appreciate any responses.
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I don?t think the reflections would be too distracting.
For the three shots at z153, z222 and z312, I calculate that the most reflective part of the pool would be (in 3-D space) 22, 31 and 34 degrees away from the target locations. And the sun itself would be (again in 3-D space) 17 degrees away from the ideal location needed to shine the brightest image into that window.
There will be some bright sparkles of light on the pool, due to small ripples in the water, but being pretty far from the target, the location along the road Oswald would have been aiming, I doubt this would be a problem.
Of course, some firing tests would have to be done to confirm this. Dealey Plaza can?t be used but it would be possible to find some remote location, with a small body of water, where this test can be made, at least with stationary targets.
Ideally, the sun would be about 10 degrees too high, and about 15 degrees too far to the west, to reflect the image of the sun directly into the shooter?s eyes, and the shooter should be looking (compass angles) 24, 34 and 35 degrees further west of the body of water, and down at an angle of 30, 21 and 16 degrees at the three targets.
John Mytton:
--- Quote from: John Iacoletti on August 18, 2018, 01:48:52 AM ---Even harder for a reflection off the pool to hit Oswald's eye in the first floor domino room at the back of the building.
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Thumb1:
Hahaha, how do you get a guy with no alibi into the Domino room?
So much for your claimed impartiality, eh John!? -snigger-
JohnM
James Hackerott:
--- Quote from: Joe Elliott on August 20, 2018, 01:03:38 AM ---I don?t think the reflections would be too distracting.
For the three shots at z153, z222 and z312, I calculate that the most reflective part of the pool would be (in 3-D space) 22, 31 and 34 degrees away from the target locations. And the sun itself would be (again in 3-D space) 17 degrees away from the ideal location needed to shine the brightest image into that window.
There will be some bright sparkles of light on the pool, due to small ripples in the water, but being pretty far from the target, the location along the road Oswald would have been aiming, I doubt this would be a problem.
Of course, some firing tests would have to be done to confirm this. Dealey Plaza can?t be used but it would be possible to find some remote location, with a small body of water, where this test can be made, at least with stationary targets.
Ideally, the sun would be about 10 degrees too high, and about 15 degrees too far to the west, to reflect the image of the sun directly into the shooter?s eyes, and the shooter should be looking (compass angles) 24, 34 and 35 degrees further west of the body of water, and down at an angle of 30, 21 and 16 degrees at the three targets.
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Joe, again I thank your for your analysis.
I want to address a possible re-enactment scenario that can be appreciated from the comfort of your favorite computer chair by viewing EarthCam's live stream from the 6th floor SE window. Unless EarthCam or the SFM change the view the reflection pool will be in frame. We can view it on November 22, but until those trees are cut back to 1963 size they will block most of the sparkle . My thinking is to use symmetry to find dates that match within a few degrees the simultaneous 37 degree altitude and 144 155 degree azimuth that will match the sun's position Nov 22, 1963, but hit from east of the N/S line ? giving an effective elimination of those shade trees . I think I've calculated the 144 155 degree azimuth correctly. There are two dates that fill both requirements. They are October 26th @ 11:16 and February 16 @ 10:47 November 7 at 10:48 and February 3 at 11:18.
Better yet, if you're fortunate to visit the museum on or near those two dates you can view live from 1 row of windows west or the 7th floor above the SN. Note that on the 6th floor photography is not permitted while photography is perfectly okay on the 7th.
Of course, like most astronomical events, clear skies are favored and for this experiment a stiff breeze and/or working fountains are needed.
Mark your calendars!
Simulation from 7th floor for November 22.
edit 20180911
I must make corrections to the dates and times I presented above due to a recalculated azimuth of 155 degrees with 37 deg altitude. The original times were determined using an incorrect azimuth of 144 degrees. The corrected times are November 7 at 10:48 and February 3 at 11:18. At those times the sun will have an altitude of 37 degrees and azimuth of 155 degrees. Please advance to post #15 for updated graphics at these times versus an 11/22 12:30 sun at 185 degrees.
John Iacoletti:
--- Quote from: John Mytton on August 20, 2018, 01:21:53 AM ---Hahaha, how do you get a guy with no alibi into the Domino room?
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Same way you get the same guy in a window on the 6th floor.
Joe Elliott:
--- Quote from: John Mytton on August 20, 2018, 01:21:53 AM ---Hahaha, how do you get a guy with no alibi into the Domino room?
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--- Quote from: John Iacoletti on August 20, 2018, 11:31:31 PM ---Same way you get the same guy in a window on the 6th floor.
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Oswald?s fingerprint/palmprints on boxes found in the Domino room?
Oswald?s rifle, with paperwork that connects to it Oswald, were found in the Domino room?
The same rifle had Oswald?s palmprints on it?
A witness (who wasn?t Oswald) said he saw Oswald in the Domino room at 12:30?
Wow, I had no idea the evidence of Oswald being in the Domino room at 12:30 was just as strong as the evidence that he was at the sniper?s window on the sixth floor.
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