Oswald once considered hijacking a plane to Cuba

[Walt Cakebread]

This is from the list of unsupported claims by Walt Cakebread that I made years ago.

- Walt never proved a ?signed affidavit with a notary seal? signed by LHO saying he was going to hijack a plane and make the pilot fly him to Cuba EVER existed.

I figured this thread would be right up his alley.

At the time I rebutted your idea that there should be "proof" that Lee had proposed hijacking a airliner, I was being sarcastic, by asking "would you expect Lee to have left a signed and notarized affidavit ?"

Of course an intelligent reader would understand that such an instrument would be enough to convict a person and get him a room at the crossbar hotel....  But apparently you're not bright enough to understand simple ideas....

[Walt Cakebread]

🏃‍♂️Walt, 🏃‍♂️. You were dead serious. Years later spin won't help you.

You simply didn't understand that Lee wouldn't have left any documentation ( like a legal affidavit) that he intended to hijack an airliner.

Any normal intelligent person would have understood why he wouldn't have left written proof that he planned to commit a crime.... 

Lee knew that there had been a successful hijacking and the perpetrator had been welcomed to Cuba.....

Marina didn't know that Lee was an American intelligence agent, and she balked when he suggested that they could fly to Cuba and be welcomed to Castroland.....

[Walt Cakebread]

The whole idea is ridiculous as LHO would have never made it back to the U.S. if he had succeeded. If he had failed he would have been in jail. Either way he wouldn't have been of any use to anyone.

I realize that the affidavit comment is ridiculous, but *you* said it.

If you knew it was a ridiculous idea.... why did you take it seriously?  The truth is:....You didn't realize that I was not seriously suggesting that Lee would have left written proof that he was going to commit a crime.   If you've listened to Lee in his debates on the New Orleans Radio station (monitored in Cuba) then you should have noticed that he never ever said anything that could be construed as threatening to JFK.  He was very careful in his choice of words in arguing with Carlos Bringuer on the program Latin Listening Post....     

[Jerry Freeman]

It's interesting to me that we have nothing in Oswald's writings about his views on JFK. ...............  Why not plant writings where Oswald says JFK must be killed?

Too much 'Manchurian Candidate' stuff there.
They pulled that off with Sirhan Sirhan [RFK must die] 
Also...that would have put Oswald in the right wing John Bircher or Klanish end of the political spectrum.
No, they wanted to keep him a staunch communist boogey man. There was enough incriminating things [that Oswald conveniently left behind] that worked well for the prosecution.
 

[Walt Cakebread]

Too much 'Manchurian Candidate' stuff there.
They pulled that off with Sirhan Sirhan [RFK must die] 
Also...that would have put Oswald in the right wing John Bircher or Klanish end of the political spectrum.
No, they wanted to keep him a staunch communist boogey man. There was enough incriminating things [that Oswald conveniently left behind] that worked well for the prosecution.

There was enough incriminating things [that Oswald conveniently left behind] that worked well for the prosecution.


Yes, you're right....about incriminating things that Lee "conveniently" left behind.....I doubt that he knew that J.Edgar Hoover was keeping a file open and compiling a record that could be used when the time was ripe.

J.Edgar Hoover had the most complete incriminating file on the Patsy.....He knew better than anybody about Lee Oswald's public record which portrayed a communist evolutionary who admired Fidel Castro.

And though there is no way to prove it.....I'd bet that Hoover knew that Lee had ordered a rifle from Klein's at the time the rifle was delivered to PO box 2915 in March of 1963.......   The FBI didn't trace that rifle purchase back  to Kleins in just a few hours....   Hoover had Lee Oswald's PO box under surveillance and knew that Lee had ordered that rifle from Klein's.   And I'd bet that Hoover knew that the rifle was used to put a bullet through General Walker's window in the hoax attempt on Walker's life....

[Jerry Freeman]

 
 

  The FBI were trying to track Lee Harvey Oswald before the assassination, according to memos by New Orleans division of the bureau. An agent there wrote that Oswald was of interest according to ?Cuban sources?, and that he had forwarded the information to Dallas authorities.
    The FBI warned Dallas police of a death threat to Lee Harvey Oswald, according to a memo by director J Edgar Hoover, but the police failed to protect him. ?Last night we received a call in our Dallas office from a man talking in a calm voice and saying he was a member of a committee organized to kill Oswald.?
    Hoover started to fear conspiracy theorizing. ?The thing I am concerned about,? Hoover said, ?is having something issued so that we can convince the public that Oswald is the real assassin.?
    Soviet leaders considered Oswald a ?neurotic maniac who was disloyal to his own country and everything else?. They, too, feared a conspiracy had killed Kennedy, perhaps organized by a rightwing coup or Lyndon Johnson. They also feared that a reckless general would launch a missile and start war in the aftermath of Kennedy?s death.
    Fidel Castro told American lawmakers that Cuba was not involved in the plot, when House investigators visited the island in 1978. In 1963, however, the Cuban ambassador tot the US reacted with ?happy delight? to the murder, according to a CIA memo.
    The documents include a lengthy report on CIA assassination plots and programs, and scores of pages of receipts and bookkeeping, amounting to hundreds of thousands of dollars in covert programs. Many were directed at Cuba, others in the Dominican Republic, Congo, and north and south Vietnam.
    President Donald Trump blocked the release of an unknown number of documents, saying he had ?no choice? but to bow to national security concerns of the FBI and CIA. He also ordered them to review their still secret documents over the next 180 days, setting a new deadline for releases, on 26 April 2018.

Read more...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2017/oct/26/jfk-files-released-assassination-documents-conspiracy-theories
 

[Walt Cakebread]

I took it seriously because the vast majority of what you say is ridiculous, but you believe it.  You believed that LHO was going to hijack a plane back then, but as usual you couldn't offer any supporting evidence for it.

You believed that LHO was going to hijack a plane back then, but as usual you couldn't offer any supporting evidence for it.

You're FOS....  I said that Lee was ENTERTAINING THE IDEA of hijacking a plane as a way to infiltrate Castro's Bastion....He knew that another hijacker had successfully hijacked a plane and had been granted asylum in Cuba.....Lee told Marina that he could hijack an airliner and they could fly to Cuba and be welcomed into the country. Marina immediately nixed the idea.

as usual you couldn't offer any supporting evidence

What would you expect Rob??...A signed and notarized affidavit from Lee that he was entertaining the idea of hijacking an airliner ??