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Oswald once considered hijacking a plane to Cuba
John Mytton:
--- Quote from: Walt Cakebread on August 04, 2018, 11:38:33 PM ---Thank you for recalling that parallel ......And you're right. Lee was not afraid to use desprate measures if he thought it would achieve his goal.
However....I believe the wrist slash was superficial. He never intended to commit suicide....His Russian escort found him feinting unconsciousness with a bathtub with a lot of red water in it......When that wrist scar was examined at his autopsy it was found to have been a superficial wound....
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Oswald hacked into his wrist deep enough that the wound required stitches and the Russians were concerned enough to put Oswald in a ward with the other insane people.
Oct. 21 (con):watch my life whirl away. I think to myself, "how easy to die" and a sweet death, (to violins). About 8.00, Rima finds my unconscious (bathtub water a rich red color). She screams (I remember that) and runs for help. Ambulance comes, am taken to hospital where five stitches are put in my wrists. Poor Rima stays by my side as interpreter (my Russian is still very bad) far into the night. I tell her, "go home" (my mood is bad) but she stays, she is "my friend" She has a strong will. Only at this moment I notice she is pretty.
Oct. 22. Hospital. I am in a small room with about 12 others (sick persons), 2 orderlies, and a nurse. The room is very drab as well as the breakfast. Only after prolonged (2 hours) observation of the other patients do I realize I am in the Insanity ward. This realization disquiets me. Later in afternoon, I am visited by Rima. She comes in with two doctors. As interpreter, she must ask me medical question, "Did you know what you were doing?" Answer "yes." "Did you blackout?" "No," etc. I then complain about poor food. The doctors laugh. Apparently this is a good sign. Later they leave, I am alone with Rima (amongst the mentally ill). She encourages me and scolds me. She says she will help me get transferred to another section of Hospital (not for insane) where food is good.
JohnM
Walt Cakebread:
--- Quote from: John Mytton on August 04, 2018, 11:45:33 PM ---Oswald hacked into his wrist deep enough that the wound required stitches and the Russians were concerned enough to put Oswald in a ward with the other insane people.
Oct. 21 (con):watch my life whirl away. I think to myself, "how easy to die" and a sweet death, (to violins). About 8.00, Rima finds my unconscious (bathtub water a rich red color). She screams (I remember that) and runs for help. Ambulance comes, am taken to hospital where five stitches are put in my wrists. Poor Rima stays by my side as interpreter (my Russian is still very bad) far into the night. I tell her, "go home" (my mood is bad) but she stays, she is "my friend" She has a strong will. Only at this moment I notice she is pretty.
Oct. 22. Hospital. I am in a small room with about 12 others (sick persons), 2 orderlies, and a nurse. The room is very drab as well as the breakfast. Only after prolonged (2 hours) observation of the other patients do I realize I am in the Insanity ward. This realization disquiets me. Later in afternoon, I am visited by Rima. She comes in with two doctors. As interpreter, she must ask me medical question, "Did you know what you were doing?" Answer "yes." "Did you blackout?" "No," etc. I then complain about poor food. The doctors laugh. Apparently this is a good sign. Later they leave, I am alone with Rima (amongst the mentally ill). She encourages me and scolds me. She says she will help me get transferred to another section of Hospital (not for insane) where food is good.
JohnM
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Oct. 21 (con):watch my life whirl away. I think to myself, "how easy to die" and a sweet death, (to violins). About 8.00, Rima finds my unconscious (bathtub water a rich red color). She screams (I remember that) and runs for help. Ambulance comes, am taken to hospital where five stitches are put in my wrists. Poor Rima stays by my side as interpreter (my Russian is still very bad) far into the night. I tell her, "go home" (my mood is bad) but she stays, she is "my friend" She has a strong will. Only at this moment I notice she is pretty.
Ha...ha...ha...ha.... :D.... So, Lee was unconscious...But he was aware that Rima found him and screamed....
Mr Mytton would you like to buy some nice seashore property in Arizona?
Lee wrote this in his "Historical Diary" on the ship while traveling back to the US 3 1/2 years after the event.
John Mytton:
--- Quote from: Walt Cakebread on August 04, 2018, 11:57:01 PM ---Oct. 21 (con):watch my life whirl away. I think to myself, "how easy to die" and a sweet death, (to violins). About 8.00, Rima finds my unconscious (bathtub water a rich red color). She screams (I remember that) and runs for help. Ambulance comes, am taken to hospital where five stitches are put in my wrists. Poor Rima stays by my side as interpreter (my Russian is still very bad) far into the night. I tell her, "go home" (my mood is bad) but she stays, she is "my friend" She has a strong will. Only at this moment I notice she is pretty.
Ha...ha...ha...ha.... :D.... So, Lee was unconscious...But he was aware that Rima found him and screamed....
Mr Mytton would you like to buy some nice seashore property in Arizona?
Lee wrote this in his "Historical Diary" on the ship while traveling back to the US 3 1/2 years after the event.
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What's the problem? It's a logical progression of events, Oswald wasn't dead he was only unconscious then when Rima screamed, Oswald was awoken.
JohnM
Martin Weidmann:
--- Quote from: Joffrey van de Wiel on August 04, 2018, 10:40:03 PM ---Oswald's 'plan to hijack a plane to gain entry into Cuba' is just one of Marina's crazy stories. He never had such a plan. He didn't need to. He could have travelled to Cuba by peaceful means, the only limitation imposed by his financial means. The notion that Lee wanted to to Cuba to train the Cuban army (single-handedly?) is ludicrous. The story falls in the same category as his alleged intent to assassinate Richard Nixon: it never happened.
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He could have travelled to Cuba by peaceful means, the only limitation imposed by his financial means.
Are we talking about the same guy who didn't have the money to travel to Russia but did so nevertheless?
John Mytton:
--- Quote from: Martin Weidmann on August 05, 2018, 04:50:55 AM ---He could have travelled to Cuba by peaceful means, the only limitation imposed by his financial means.
Are we talking about the same guy who didn't have the money to travel to Russia but did so nevertheless?
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--- Quote ---who didn't have the money to travel to Russia
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Cite?
JohnM
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