Where was Lovelady Standing in Wiegman and Altgens6?

[Alan Ford]

I've already posted this gif (just removed the latter frame), and added James' animation scaled to 140% of its original size:
The frames I use did not come from Groden's DVD.
They came from the DVD "Death in Dealy Plaza", better quality in my opinion.
Irregardless, they are always scaled.




 

Thanks for this, Chris (and of course to James too).

The Frazier model is in completely the wrong position here.

[James Hackerott]

Reply to Alan
Thanks Alan,
You may be right abut Frazier not where I show him. I can't find him (with any confidence) in my enhancement. Do you have a better location for him?

[Alan Ford]

Reply to Alan
Thanks Alan,
You may be right abut Frazier not where I show him. I can't find him (with any confidence) in my enhancement. Do you have a better location for him?

Here he is, James. I've put a small dot on his left cheek. His distinctive hair contour is visible.

The height discrepancy between Frazier and Lovelady---as in the Wiegman-Darnell blend that Chris prepared---is simply too great for Lovelady to be on the landing also.

[Barry Pollard]

James,
the difference between BL and Frazier appears to be more than one step as Alan observed.


Also, on your Altgens view.
You have Lovelady coming down to meet his position for Ike's photo but that doesn't appear correct.
His position in Altgens is the highest we see him and he's in the that same position in Wiegman IMO because we still see a slight leaning, then it's from from that position he goes down to a lower step.

[Barry Pollard]

The slight lean that suggests it's within a couple seconds of Altgens to me,
also compare Lovelady to Shelley above and in Altgens, it looks very similar.
So this is the highest we see him.

[James Hackerott]

Here he is, James. I've put a small dot on his left cheek. His distinctive hair contour is visible.

The height discrepancy between Frazier and Lovelady---as in the Wiegman-Darnell blend that Chris prepared---is simply too great for Lovelady to be on the landing also.

Alan & Barry,
I've taken a Wiegman frame from DiDP, a 5 frame composite of the doorway, your Frazier Id and my POV rendering. All three of the frames show the Frazier inside of your red circle, as well as the blue dot. I can't see why you feel my modeled Frazier is in a completely wrong position? Maybe a few inches to low? Please be patient to examine this new GIF and offer some thoughts.

[Barry Pollard]

James,
let me try again in case my question was lost or not clear enough.

In your view from Altgens, you have Lovelady coming down from the landing to meet his obligation for Ike's image, why?
Hughes(and perhaps Towner too) suggests he moved up the steps.