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[Chris Bristow]

I don't know if anyone detailed Mr Newmans account in the 'Trial of LHO' but I have to say Ray Mitcham was correct when he said the map was viewed from an angle and very misleading. It sure was! It looks like he is almost pointing to the TSB but the camera is too far left to show a real line of sight from Newman to the pergola. the West map(Or any map) tells a different story.
  He marks an area a few feet east of the east pergola. That location is almost directly north of him.  It is only about 20 degrees away from being directly behind him as he faced the limo at frame 313. The 6th floor window on the other hand is about 50 degrees east of the pergola at 313. The window is 110 degrees off to his left as he faces the limo in 313.
  So his mark is only 20 degrees away from being directly behind him and 50 degrees away from the 6th floor window.

[John Mytton]

A testament to your dishonesty is that you "forgot" to copy this part:

Mr. BELIN. I'm going to hand you what has been marked as Virginia Davis Deposition, Exhibit 2, and ask you to state if this is your signature on here?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Would you read the contents of your deposition Exhibit 2, and I will ask you if there is anything there that is inaccurate. (Reads statement.)
Mr. BELIN. You have read Exhibit 2?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Is there anything in that statement that is inaccurate in any way?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Is that what you told the police of Dallas on November 22, 1963?
Mrs. DAVIS. That's right.

The Patton door was Virginia's front door so it doesn't make "Patton" go away. Too bad Virginia was such a bad liar but being able to fool you shows how bad your skill set is and nicely explains why you constantly find yourself cornered and having hissy fits.

Should we have a look at when her sister in law called the police or do you need a break?

A testament to your dishonesty is that you "forgot" to copy this part:

Ahhh poor little Otto made a Noob mistake and forgot to read the ENTIRETY of the Davis Testimony and had his quote all ready to go for his "gotcha" moment until I spoiled his little party with my superior testimony passage where Mrs Davis goes on to CLARIFY exactly what was supposed to be written.

Mr. BELIN. You say, "The man that was unloading the gun was the same man that I saw tonight as No. 2 man in a lineup." Is that right?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. Now, Mrs. Davis, on this statement, Virginia Davis Deposition Exhibit 2, it states that "We heard a shot and then another shot and ran to side door at Patton Street." You say that should have been the front door?
Mrs. DAVIS. That was supposed to be the front door.

And as I pointed out, it's absolutely absurd to believe that Mrs Davis could see the yard from the Patton Street door, she describes in her affidavit events happening in the front yard, events corroborated by other eyewitnesses.

Too bad Virginia was such a bad liar but being able to fool you shows how bad your skill set is and nicely explains why you constantly find yourself cornered and having hissy fits.

Wow, twisted analysis totally devoid of logic, so Mrs Davis is "a bad liar" because in her affidavit the door is wrong and even though in her testimony she straightens it all out, you still persist with your worthless  accusation. But why would a lady who just happened to live near a murder want to make up evidence, where does that go, do you have any proof that she was paid or an agent or even an informant? Anything?

Btw if there was any collusion and a possible conspiracy, or whatever paranoid delusion you're having today, with the Davis girls then surely wouldn't they have all the important details be exactly the same, the fact that there is so many consistencies in their stories but with small expected discrepancies speaks highly of their authenticity.

The problem for you Otto is you haven't been doing this very long at all and from my observations it's obvious you haven't studied any other case in any depth, so my advice is to get out more and try to understand people and what motivates them and start applying this new found knowledge to the JFKA and hopefully your eyes will open.
Because let's be frank here, your current methodology of producing mindless "gotcha" moments from explainable discrepancies is wearing thin and kinda shows that you don't want to solve this case but just want to Troll! Right?

Should we have a look at when her sister in law called the police or do you need a break?

As I explained above small expected discrepancies, lead AWAY from conspiracy, not towards it! DOH!

JohnM

[John Mytton]

Wonderful workout on the bike, Johnny, as you explain how the impossible scenario becomes a small expected discrepancy that could have been been corrected by her on the spot before signing the affidavit.

Sure, I fully enjoyed the gotcha moment, so let take the short version:

Mr. BELIN. Is there anything in that statement that is inaccurate in any way?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Is that what you told the police of Dallas on November 22, 1963?
Mrs. DAVIS. That's right.

What you failed to clarify (LOL) is why she would sign a false statement when the event was fresh in her mind, or did I miss that part?

Instead you're now doing the inverse Bill Brown sing & dance act claiming her '64 recollection is to be trusted over the '63 statement. What a clown show you two have put up lately, and BTW, worth noting how quick B.B. clammed up after being schooled.

Are you ready to guess which of the Davis girls gave Dhority the fourth shell?

Instead you're now doing the inverse Bill Brown sing & dance act claiming her '64 recollection is to be trusted over the '63 statement. What a clown show you two have put up lately, and BTW, worth noting how quick B.B. clammed up after being schooled

I'm only going to say this once more,
they were both together,
they both heard shots,
they both went to the door,
they both saw Oswald cutting across the yard,
they both saw Oswald fiddling with his gun,
You can't see the yard from the Patton street door.
Case Closed!

As they say actions are louder than words and Virginia was fixated on Oswald's actions and simply glossed over the street name. As they say in the classics "Familiarity breeds contempt".

We heard a shot and then another shot and ran to the side door at Patton Street. I saw the boy cutting across our yard and he was unloading his gun.
Mrs. Virginia Davis Affidavit 22nd November 1963



Btw Bill's forgotten more about the Tippit murder than you'll ever know.

Wonderful workout on the bike, Johnny, as you explain how the impossible scenario becomes a small expected discrepancy that could have been been corrected by her on the spot before signing the affidavit.

Sure, I fully enjoyed the gotcha moment, so let take the short version:

Mr. BELIN. Is there anything in that statement that is inaccurate in any way?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Is that what you told the police of Dallas on November 22, 1963?
Mrs. DAVIS. That's right.

Recently you stamped your little feet and demanded evidence when I made a typo and said something like "Oswald caught buses and cabs", I usually quickly read through a post for any typo, grammatical error or simplifying certain points and then I post but that just flew right by me, it happens, we're all human. And I didn't just encounter a Policeman being shot just down the road and the stress of seeing the probable killer fiddling with his weapon, she was excited and as I said she just glossed over what to her must have been beyond insignificant.

Are you ready to guess which of the Davis girls gave Dhority the fourth shell?

This attacking of two sweet young eyewitnesses who just happened to live near the killing is just sad and pathetic. The Davis girls aren't on trial.

JohnM

[Martin Weidmann]

I'm only going to say this once more,
they were both together,
they both heard shots,
they both went to the door,
they both saw Oswald cutting across the yard,
they both saw Oswald fiddling with his gun,
You can't see the yard from the Patton street door.
Case Closed!

As they say actions are louder than words and Virginia was fixated on Oswald's actions and simply glossed over the street name. As they say in the classics "Familiarity breeds contempt".

We heard a shot and then another shot and ran to the side door at Patton Street. I saw the boy cutting across our yard and he was unloading his gun.
Mrs. Virginia Davis Affidavit 22nd November 1963



Btw Bill's forgotten more about the Tippit murder than you'll ever know.

Recently you stamped your little feet and demanded evidence when I made a typo and said something like "Oswald caught buses and cabs", I usually quickly read through a post for any typo, grammatical error or simplifying certain points and then I post but that just flew right by me, it happens, we're all human. And I didn't just encounter a Policeman being shot just down the road and the stress of seeing the probable killer fiddling with his weapon, she was excited and as I said she just glossed over what is really beyond insignificant.

You're taking actual physical act of handing over the bullet way too literally, they were both there and they gave the shell and both took credit, why is that a problem?

JohnM

they both went to the door,
they both saw Oswald cutting across the yard,
they both saw Oswald fiddling with his gun,
You can't see the yard from the Patton street door.

But you can see (on the photo) the front door of the Davis' house on 10th street.

Now, how long do you think it took the killer to pass that door and jump over the fence at the Patton side?

[John Mytton]

they both went to the door,
they both saw Oswald cutting across the yard,
they both saw Oswald fiddling with his gun,
You can't see the yard from the Patton street door.

But you can see (on the photo) the front door of the Davis' house on 10th street.

Now, how long do you think it took the killer to pass that door and jump over the fence at the Patton side?

I replied to Otto and will wait for his response, I don't have time to respond to two posters, sorry bout that. But feel free to finish your above post from your POV and if I find your analysis interesting I'll consider responding. K.

JohnM

[Martin Weidmann]

I replied to Otto and will wait for his response, I don't have time to respond to two posters, sorry bout that. But feel free to finish your above post from your POV and if I find your analysis interesting I'll consider responding. K.

JohnM

Arrogant coward. You just don't want to answer..... Pathetic!

I don't have time to respond to two posters

Except, you just did.... 

[Bill Brown]

Instead you're now doing the inverse Bill Brown sing & dance act claiming her '64 recollection is to be trusted over the '63 statement. What a clown show you two have put up lately, and BTW, worth noting how quick B.B. clammed up after being schooled.

What are you talking about here?

You are unaware of the FBI interview with Whaley where he describes Oswald's shirt in detail, I point it out to you and somehow I got schooled?  That doesn't make sense.  Typical.