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Framing a patsy  (Read 38673 times)

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    (Hypothetically) If Oswald read from the Communist literature he had and the socialist newspapers he received, he would have been fed notions like:

  • left-leaners are routinely "shot" while on the way to the police station
  • that all "authorities" are monolithically ultra-right and to be resisted
  • in America--one with a political motivation should seek out the ACLU
  • having a political motivation justifies the action and reduces the victim to a symbol
  • demand your "rights" (Oswald even mentioned his hygienic rights)
  • deny all involvement (why help the dreaded authorities and ruin the ACLU's case?)

The Warren Commission couldn't promote too much of that interpretation because it was inconclusive and many Americans identified with some of what Oswald represented and some supported the ACLU (for example: Bob Dylan got into hot water with an Oswald comment in 1964).

In 1970, a writer named Albert H. Newman released his book "The Assassination of John F. Kennedy: The Reasons Why" that did explore the influence of the literature on Oswald. Newman added something else: that Oswald was listening to Radio Havana in Dallas (Newman found that Oswald's radio had a shortwave band and that the English-language broadcasts began at 9 and 11 evenings CST and reached Dallas; he suggested this was why Oswald liked to be alone in his boardinghouse room).

Newman:

"A personal listening check in the summer of 1966 with the cheapest shortwave transistor portable I could find (it was under $12) disclosed that in the Dallas area Radio Havana was consistently the strongest signal in the forty-nine-meter band (at 6.135 megacycles), registering two or three times the strength observable in New York."

It was suggested that Oswald would not have gone out without a plan and exit strategy on the scale of the Walker shooting. But, if we believe Marina, one interpretation of an April 1963 incident has Oswald taking his pistol and saying he's going after Nixon because of the headline in that morning's Dallas paper: "Nixon Calls for Decision to Force Reds Out of Cuba". There are other interpretations of the incident, but that one would suggest that Oswald was willing to throw caution to the wind, act impulsively and take his chances.

Seems his targets were escalating as he became emboldened with having avoided consequences: Gen. Walker, former-VP Nixon, and finally Kennedy.

If he was set-up, Marina revealing the hotheaded Nixon episode to, say, one of the deMohrenschildts would put him further onto the conspirators' radar. They now knew he capable of going after a national leader.[/list]

I appreciate what you say, but thinking of him as an impulsive type that escalated his way to this action - go and watch his press conference a couple of times.  If he's the hothead that this theory suggests, I really doubt he'd be playing the evasive game.  With all we've been led to believe over the years - most people here either lean towards innocent patsy or lone nut.  If he's a lone nut, he probably figures once he's caught, he's a dead man...so why deny a thing?  Why not say, sure, I killed the rotten bas*ard and I'd do it again if he walked in here right now.  And if he's innocent, why be so evasive?  Why not desperately plead innocence, like a truly innocent man with a young family would do?

The press conference to me, solidifies two things:  (1) He's got a very significant role in the assassination of the President and (2) He's hiding something fairly big.


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I'm somewhat confused about the LN view of Oswald. Some seem to suggest that the only reason JFK was shot by him is because the Pres just happened to drive by. Just bad luck for JFK that Oswald didn't get a job elsewhere.

This is the same Oswald that planned and travelled to the home of Walker to shoot at him? Surely he has proved to you to be a mobile assassin hasn't he?

Agree totally with this.  Pretty convenient, to me, that the motorcade went right by LHO's place of employment, though...I mean, the motorcade didn't HAVE to go along Elm - it could have jumped the Main St. curb to get on to the Stemmons.  And that would be a minor issue, because there would be a lot more security ease on Main St than Elm.  For now-obvious reasons.


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To think Colin, that had Oswald planned to collect the shells and had planned to hide the rifle in a good hiding place beforehand where it would be difficult to discover, he may have bought himself a lot more time. I always wondered where he hid the rifle before he shot it? It must have been in a good hiding spot cause no one saw it. Why not put it back there? If he had taken his time to work out where best to hide it, he may have even gotten away with it.
The Walker shooting shows what he is capable of doing. Some LN's even suggest he may have buried the rifle somewhere. It that is the case why didn't he do the same thing when he planned to shoot JFK?
2 different assassins.

Hee hee. How naive can you get?



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You mean they didn't see a rifle? It must have been well hidden I guess. Why not pick up the shells put the rifle back in its bag and hide it somewhere that will confuse anyone looking for it? He had the time to plan it at least.
When I say bury Ron I don't mean it literally. I keep forgetting you're still at LN school.

HA HA HA!

It just gets better.






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You mean no one saw a rifle? Not even Buell or anyone else? Well it must have been well hidden I guess.
Why not pick up the shells put the rifle back in its bag and hide it somewhere that will confuse anyone looking for it? He had the time to plan it at least.
When I say bury Ron I don't mean it literally. I keep forgetting you're still at LN school.

There is a point in all of this - is there no way that a rifle could have made its way into the TSBD prior to November 22?  I mean, if there was a conspiracy of any form, I doubt it started at 9 AM that Friday.


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How about it started in November 1960 just after the election. Or maybe in December 1960 after the man failed to blow up President Elect John Kennedy coming out from mass. I believe the plot was well planned. But I won't get into who I think planned it.


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You mean no one saw a rifle? Not even Buell or anyone else? Well it must have been well hidden I guess.
Why not pick up the shells put the rifle back in its bag and hide it somewhere that will confuse anyone looking for it? He had the time to plan it at least.
When I say bury Ron I don't mean it literally. I keep forgetting you're still at LN school.
Yes Paul, I'm so far behind in LN school, I still think he never really thought he would get out of the building.


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If you really believed Oswald shot Kennedy you would be able to explain why Oswald failed to plan it better than he did. Why he was so sloppy as compared to the Walker shooting. But you'd rather laugh nervously about it cause lets face it Jerry silly emoticons is all you have nowadays. That and lip reading classes. Even your eyesight is deserting you going by the rubbish you post about Z225. Can you tie Oswald to the 6th floor shooter if you don't have his rifle? If you can't find the rifle you don't know the shooter is Oswald. Can you understand that at least Jerry? Its called covering ones tracks like he did at the Walker shooting.
You are one of these LN's who believe Oswald took his rifle to work that day in the off chance he bagged himself a president on his lunchtime break.

Holy Lyin'-Ryan! Emoticons are like attack-ads: they work!

I can live with being wrong about Z225. Just show me (with a life-picture) the supposed "look of horror" O-shaped mouth expression in Z225.

Now you ... you have to live with:

If he had taken his time to work out where best to hide it, he may have even gotten away with it.

Why not pick up the shells put the rifle back in its bag

That first one is Signature material.

Work on this one:

Oswald took his rifle to work that day in the off chance he bagged himself a president on his lunchtime break.

But LNers never claimed it (they have Os stewing over politics, becoming self-delusion, hating America/authorites for years, receiving a rifle/pistol months before the assassination and trying to kill Walker and Nixon in the lead-up to Dealey Plaza.)

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That is how it looks to you Ron cause you are still learning. He did get out of the building. Just stick with what you know and you won't fall so far behind. Guessing won't get you anywhere but where you are already at.

Paul Klein: Sage Tutor.



If he's in the field of education, I now know why Rowney wants to union-bust teachers.


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Holy Lyin'-Ryan! Emoticons are like attack-ads: they work!

I can live with being wrong about Z225. Just show me (with a life-picture) the supposed "look of horror" O-shaped mouth expression in Z225.

Now you ... you have to live with:

If he had taken his time to work out where best to hide it, he may have even gotten away with it.

Why not pick up the shells put the rifle back in its bag

That first one is Signature material.

Work on this one:

Oswald took his rifle to work that day in the off chance he bagged himself a president on his lunchtime break.

But LNers never claimed it (they have Os stewing over politics, becoming self-delusion, hating America/authorites for years, receiving a rifle/pistol months before the assassination and trying to kill Walker and Nixon in the lead-up to Dealey Plaza.)

Paul Klein: Sage Tutor.



If he's in the field of education, I now know why Rowney wants to union-bust teachers.

He's in a field all right, all by himself. Oswald knows his chances of getting out of the TSBD are slim at best. He may have even seen Baker get off his bike. He knows he has to haul azz before the cops are swarming the place. So.........why didn't he pause to pick up the hulls and re wrap his rifle, drop it off in the little room on the 7th floor and proceed to the stairs???? Well he was a lone nut, not a nut.


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