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George de Mohrenschildt's wife and daughter said that it was George de Mohrenschildt who secured the job at Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall located in Dallas, for Oswald,
this was in 1962.

Following information came from John Judge - Guns and Butter program
A Crypto clearance (high level of security) was necessary to get a job at Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall.
Approval by ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence) was necessary to get a job at Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall.
Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall - was a sub-contractor to the CIA developing reconnaissance photos, this is why a crypto clearance and approval was necessary.
Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall - Lee Harvey Oswald was responsible for developing spy photos of Russian missiles in Cuba that were presented to JFK as evidence. Yes this is known to be true - per John Judge

(I would have thought that Lee Harvey Oswald's crypto clearance would have been revoked after his defection to USSR and him claiming to give the Russians U-2 secrets. Also Oswald worked as a photographic expert developing photographs for Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall so when Oswald said he could prove the backyard photos were fakes, he really had the expertise to do so.)

George de Mohrenschildt's
Kicked out of France for spying
Arrested in Corpus Cristi for spying
Kicked out of Mexico for spying

Following from JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters James Douglass
George de Mohrenschildt was called to testify before the HSCA - he was murdered before he could testify (officially a suicide, grand jury listened to a tape that included the gunshot, but jury commented hearing a house alarm sound just moments before the gunshot was heard, which signified the presence of an intruder in the house)




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From John Judge - Guns and Butter program
End of WW2 von Braun & other rocket scientist give themselves up to the Americans, Clay Shaw was involved.
 Claw Shaw kicked out of Italy for spying - PERMADEX (Trade Mart)
   Clay Shaw worked for Trade Mart in New Orleans - CIA
    Oswald was arrested for protesting outside of Trade Mart in New Orleans
     JFK motorcade was on the way to the Dallas Trade Mart
      911 - World Trade Towers

Major-General Dr Walter Robert Dornberger (von Brauns's boss) was captured and set to to be judged for war crimes.
von Braun demanded Walter Robert Dornberger's release in exchange for rocket work.
Walter Robert Dornberger went to work for Bell Helicoptor
Michael Paine worked for Walter Robert Dornberger at Bell Helicoptor
Ruth Paine is from Forbe family
Ruth Paine is now known to have been a "witting" CIA asset
Ruth Paines sister did work for the CIA   


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From John Judge - Guns and Butter program
End of WW2 von Braun & other rocket scientist give themselves up to the Americans, Clay Shaw was involved.
 Claw Shaw kicked out of Italy for spying - PERMADEX (Trade Mart)
   Clay Shaw worked for Trade Mart in New Orleans - CIA
    Oswald was arrested for protesting outside of Trade Mart in New Orleans
     JFK motorcade was on the way to the Dallas Trade Mart
      911 - World Trade Towers

Major-General Dr Walter Robert Dornberger (von Brauns's boss) was captured and set to to be judged for war crimes.
von Braun demanded Walter Robert Dornberger's release in exchange for rocket work.
Walter Robert Dornberger went to work for Bell Helicoptor
Michael Paine worked for Walter Robert Dornberger at Bell Helicoptor
Ruth Paine is from Forbe family
Ruth Paine is now known to have been a "witting" CIA asset
Ruth Paines sister did work for the CIA   
Lincoln had a secratary named Kennedy. Kennedy had asecratary named Lincoln etc.......................................


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I'm somewhat confused about the LN view of Oswald. Some seem to suggest that the only reason JFK was shot by him is because the Pres just happened to drive by. Just bad luck for JFK that Oswald didn't get a job elsewhere.

This is the same Oswald that planned and travelled to the home of Walker to shoot at him? Surely he has proved to you to be a mobile assassin hasn't he?


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Following from JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters James Douglass
George de Mohrenschildt was called to testify before the HSCA - he was murdered before he could testify (officially a suicide, grand jury listened to a tape that included the gunshot, but jury commented hearing a house alarm sound just moments before the gunshot was heard, which signified the presence of an intruder in the house)

Holy Romney-Is-One-Dumb-Git!

James W. Douglass's "JFK and the Unspeakable" may be the most error-laden CT book since Carl Oglesby's 1991 gem "Who Killed JFK? (The Real Story Series)."

The "alarm system" beeped when a door or window opened. The "beep" before the shot was Miss Romanic, the cook, going out in the backyard for a break. The gunshot was 23 seconds later. Five minutes later, the "beep" goes again, this time Mrs. Viisola, in the kitchen, went out the back door to take out garbage. Mrs. Viisola was Mrs. de Mohrenschildt's maid, who had set up the audio tape to record a soap for her.

Neither Romanic, Viisola or Coley Wimbley, the gardener in the backyard, heard the shot. George de Mohrenschildt had an history of mental illness.



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I'm somewhat confused about the LN view of Oswald. Some seem to suggest that the only reason JFK was shot by him is because the Pres just happened to drive by. Just bad luck for JFK that Oswald didn't get a job elsewhere.

That's the characterization from CTs as to how conspirators would have wanted Oswald's set-up to be interpreted.

The LN view is more complicated, involving more than happenstance and luck. For example, I see a progression in Oswald's boldness and self-importance by the increased statushood of his potential victims: Gen. Walker, then former VP Nixon and finally the President.

Also, Oswald lived in a city which liked guns and where newspapers were printing some nasty critical things about Kennedy.

This leads us to the Hunts being involved and one of them living outside the States for awhile after the assassination. In fact, one early line of suspicion of a conspiracy centered on it being well-placed oil barons from Dallas. A bit of this got into the movie "Executive Action".


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Lincoln had a secratary named Kennedy. Kennedy had asecratary named Lincoln etc.......................................
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck  etc.......................................



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To think Colin, that had Oswald planned to collect the shells and had planned to hide the rifle in a good hiding place beforehand where it would be difficult to discover, he may have bought himself a lot more time. I always wondered where he hid the rifle before he shot it? It must have been in a good hiding spot cause no one saw it. Why not put it back there? If he had taken his time to work out where best to hide it, he may have even gotten away with it.
The Walker shooting shows what he is capable of doing. Some LN's even suggest he may have buried the rifle somewhere. It that is the case why didn't he do the same thing when he planned to shoot JFK?
2 different assassins.
Well Paul, nobody was looking for a rifle before the assassination. I guess he couldn't bury the rifle behind a pergola without some pesky cop sayin"say boy! watchoo doin??"


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That phrase at the beginning of "The X-Files"...


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According to the WC the lifts were locked on 5. According to the WC there was someone on the floor between the lifts and the stairwell. According to the WC there was someone between the lifts and the stairwell on the second floor too. They were found there a minute or so after the shots. Not a bad way to control movement around the 6th floor is it?

You're forgetting, that according to the WC, Oswald did it alone too.  So if you're believing them on all of this, you must be an LN now, right? :) 

Just kidding, dude.


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