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Why Oswald Would Have Removed The Scope From The Rifle  (Read 15271 times)
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Everyone knows that the assassination rifle was found on the 6th floor of the TSBD with a telescopic sight mounted on it, and it is assumed that Oswald used this telescopic sight for at least one of the shots. What is not commonly known is the type and quality of this scope, the type and quality of the scope mount, the quality of the work in mounting the scope to the rifle and how all of these factors would affect the sighting in of this telescopic sight plus the ability of this telescopic sight to remain sighted in any longer than the next successive shot.

Using testimonial evidence presented to the Warren Commission, I will show why Oswald, who had rifle training in the USMC but who was never trained in the use and maintenance of a telescopic rifle sight, would have quickly become frustrated with the gross deficiencies of the telescopic sight on C2766, and would have removed the telescopic sight and mount from this rifle long before 22/11/63.


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Everyone knows that the assassination rifle was found on the 6th floor of the TSBD with a telescopic sight mounted on it, and it is assumed that Oswald used this telescopic sight for at least one of the shots. What is not commonly known is the type and quality of this scope, the type and quality of the scope mount, the quality of the work in mounting the scope to the rifle and how all of these factors would affect the sighting in of this telescopic sight plus the ability of this telescopic sight to remain sighted in any longer than the next successive shot.

Using testimonial evidence presented to the Warren Commission, I will show why Oswald, who had rifle training in the USMC but who was never trained in the use and maintenance of a telescopic rifle sight, would have quickly become frustrated with the gross deficiencies of the telescopic sight on C2766, and would have removed the telescopic sight and mount from this rifle long before 22/11/63.

Everyone knows that the assassination rifle was found on the 6th floor of the TSBD with a telescopic sight mounted on it,

Not everyone....I don't believe that the Mannlicher Carcano that was discovered where it had been carefully hidden in a cavern of boxes was the murder weapon.


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Everyone knows that the assassination rifle was found on the 6th floor of the TSBD with a telescopic sight mounted on it,

Not everyone....I don't believe that the Mannlicher Carcano that was discovered where it had been carefully in a cavern of boxes was the murder weapon.

Understood. I'll begin calling it the alleged assassination rifle from here on.


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HI Bob - I'd be interested in discussion about the scope
and I have some questions before you get started ...

Is our scope 4/18?
Is 4/18 a common gauge of scope?  or was at the time?
Does that mean every 18 ft is brought to a 4 ft view?
Is it easily identified at a glance as 4/18? - or does one have to look close to see the gauge?
carry on


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HI Bob - I'd be interested in discussion about the scope
and I have some questions before you get started ...

Is our scope 4/18?
Is 4/18 a common gauge of scope?  or was at the time?
Does that mean every 18 ft is brought to a 4 ft view?
Is it easily identified at a glance as 4/18? - or does one have to look close to see the gauge?
carry on


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No, it is a bit simpler than that. The 4 means the scope gives 4x magnification and the 18 means the diameter of the "objective lens" in millimeters. The objective lens is on the opposite end of the scope from the end you look into.

Sometimes, you will see additional numbers assigned to a scope, such as 3-9 x 32. This simply means it is a variable power scope and it lets you zoom in from 3x to 9x. The 32 again is the measurement of the objective lens in millimeters.

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An 18 mm objective lens is extremely small, and gives away the scope found on C2766 as a cheap toy intended for use only on a youth's pellet gun or, at most, a .22 rimfire rifle. It also had an extremely small "field of view", making target acquisition (especially moving targets) extremely difficult with this scope.


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Hi Michael

No, it is a bit simpler than that. The 4 means the scope gives 4x magnification and the 18 means the diameter of the "objective lens" in millimeters. The objective lens is on the opposite end of the scope from the end you look into.

Sometimes, you will see additional numbers assigned to a scope, such as 3-9 x 32. This simply means it is a variable power scope and it lets you zoom in from 3x to 9x. The 32 again is the measurement of the objective lens in millimeters.

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An 18 mm objective lens is extremely small, and gives away the scope found on C2766 as a cheap toy intended for use only on a youth's pellet gun or, at most, a .22 rimfire rifle. It also had an extremely small "field of view", making target acquisition (especially moving targets) extremely difficult with this scope.

An 18 mm objective lens is extremely small, and gives away the scope found on C2766 as a cheap toy intended for use only on a youth's pellet gun or, at most, a .22 rimfire rifle. It also had an extremely small "field of view", making target acquisition (especially moving targets) extremely difficult with this scope.

Good post....and I might add the cheap scope was never intended for the heavier recoil of a larger rifle......


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An 18 mm objective lens is extremely small, and gives away the scope found on C2766 as a cheap toy intended for use only on a youth's pellet gun or, at most, a .22 rimfire rifle. It also had an extremely small "field of view", making target acquisition (especially moving targets) extremely difficult with this scope.

Good post....and I might add the cheap scope was never intended for the heavier recoil of a larger rifle......

Correct, Mr. Cakebread, and I plan to deal with that topic extensively; using the WC testimony of FBI SA Robert A. Frazier.


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Everyone knows that the assassination rifle was found on the 6th floor of the TSBD with a telescopic sight mounted on it, and it is assumed that Oswald used this telescopic sight for at least one of the shots. What is not commonly known is the type and quality of this scope, the type and quality of the scope mount, the quality of the work in mounting the scope to the rifle and how all of these factors would affect the sighting in of this telescopic sight plus the ability of this telescopic sight to remain sighted in any longer than the next successive shot.

Using testimonial evidence presented to the Warren Commission, I will show why Oswald, who had rifle training in the USMC but who was never trained in the use and maintenance of a telescopic rifle sight, would have quickly become frustrated with the gross deficiencies of the telescopic sight on C2766, and would have removed the telescopic sight and mount from this rifle long before 22/11/63.


The rifle with the scope mounted could be aimed with the scope or the iron sights. The scope in no way prevented the iron sights from being used. This has been demonstrated in firing tests with that type of rifle. This is just one of those inconvenient truth that many wish to ignore.

While using the scope was not a realistic option for aiming the scope (probably not, but we will never know for certain) there are many reasons why Oswald would chose to keep the scope mounted.

1.   It did not prevent the iron sights from being used.

2.   It makes the rifle look more “lethal”. Like the assassin really knew what he was doing when he used it as the murder weapon, because it had a scope.

3.   If nothing else, the scope could help him identify JFK as soon as possible, after rounding the corner onto Houston Street, allowing him to know as soon as possible which vehicle JFK was in and where he was sitting in. He could see this without having to take the time to put down his rifle and pick it up again.


4.   Oswald was known to want to leave behind images that show how dangerous he was, which could increase his notoriety, after he, hopefully, escaped over the border

a.   The pictures he had his wife taken of him with his rifle, with the scope clearly visible and his handgun.

b.   The Same pictures that show him dressed in black.


c.   His insistence, just before leaving the jail, to dress in black, to wait for his black sweater to be brought to him, which ironically delayed him just enough to allow Jack Ruby to arrive just in time to shoot him.

At best, one can argue that the scope would be perhaps an annoyance that he might have want to ignore. But many people pretend that this arguments don’t exist and it really only makes sense for him to remove the scope before using the rifle.



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