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Erasing the past to protect a fairytale  (Read 131164 times)

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Yeah, I don't think that's Babushka Lady.  Her coat and scarf are too dark.

I agree. The photo of the lady in profile looking to the right does not have the correct poofy bangs of the Babushka Lady. And according to the location analysis in the thread I posted, the BL was in a different location right then, closer to high school jacket girl.

So neither the location nor the poofy hair are consistent with the BL that was tracked.

In any case, (1) the lady on the wrong side of Houston street with round sunglasses, (2) the old lady crossing the street, and (3) the flat hair/profile to the right lady are all shown to be incorrect identities of the BL.


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I agree. The photo of the lady in profile looking to the right does not have the correct poofy bangs of the Babushka Lady. And according to the location analysis in the thread I posted, the BL was in a different location right then, closer to high school jacket girl.

So neither the location nor the poofy hair are consistent with the BL that was tracked.

In any case, (1) the lady on the wrong side of Houston street with round sunglasses, (2) the old lady crossing the street, and (3) the flat hair/profile to the right lady are all shown to be incorrect identities of the BL.

Do I have to call her on the phone and ask her?


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297     Document concerning Regis Kennedy





Joseph Newbrough, Jr., another associate of Banister's, said that David Ferrie
visited Banister's office on a daily basis for several months. He recalled that Ferrie,
FBI Agent Warren DeBrueys, and FBI Agent Regis Kennedy frequently traveled to the
MDC (Movemiento Democratica Cristiano aka Christian Democratic Movement) and
the McLaney Camps (named for the owner of the land-William McLaney) on the north
shore of Lake Pontchartrain.

(John Armstrong, Harvey & Lee, p.552)


Garisson also subpoenaed Regis Kennedy and Warren de Brueys, who had already been transferred
to Washington DC out of harm's way. ( … ) De Brueys was gone but Regis Kennedy remained in New
Orleans. In Washington, Regis Kennedy's reports were immediately sealed.

(Joan Mellen, A Farewell to Justice)


Q: What happened to the F.B.I. agent who took possession of your film? 
A: Supposedly, and I don't know the whole story so I'm repeating what researchers have told me,
that he died just a few weeks before he was to appear before the House Select Committee to give
testimony about the film.

(Beverly Oliver "The Babushka Lady" Interview, Gary James, Mobile Alabama Harbinger, 1998)





Additional deaths during the interview period: Apart from the above listed agents, Regis Kennedy who
was a senior agent in the FBI assigned to New Orleans also died during the HSCA interview period. He
was one of two FBI agents in New Orleans assigned as contact men for Lee Harvey Oswald in his role
as FBI informer. Regis Kennedy’s death would be considered curious, not suspicious, due to the
coincidence with his HSCA interview per Jerome A. Kroth. He informed the Assassinations Committee
in 1978 that Carlos Marcello, the alleged Mafia boss in New Orleans, was not affiliated to organized
crime and was a tomato salesman. Regis Kennedy died shortly after testifying before the Committee in
1978. Kennedy is said to have confiscated a film of the assassination taken by what conspiracy
researchers call “The Babushka lady film” which was seized before anyone ever viewed it, and was
never recovered.

(Did Six FBI Agents die before they could testify before the House Select Committee on Assassinations?, Skeptiks)


Regis suffered a heart attack the day before he was scheduled to testify before a grand jury regarding confiscated home
movies of the assassination.

The unreleased files contain an untitled communication from Justice Department files from Regis Kennedy to the special
agent in charge of the FBI’s New Orleans field office on May 18, 1967.

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297     Document concerning Regis Kennedy





Joseph Newbrough, Jr., another associate of Banister's, said that David Ferrie
visited Banister's office on a daily basis for several months. He recalled that Ferrie,
FBI Agent Warren DeBrueys, and FBI Agent Regis Kennedy frequently traveled to the
MDC (Movemiento Democratica Cristiano aka Christian Democratic Movement) and
the McLaney Camps (named for the owner of the land-William McLaney) on the north
shore of Lake Pontchartrain.

(John Armstrong, Harvey & Lee, p.552)


Garisson also subpoenaed Regis Kennedy and Warren de Brueys, who had already been transferred
to Washington DC out of harm's way. ( … ) De Brueys was gone but Regis Kennedy remained in New
Orleans. In Washington, Regis Kennedy's reports were immediately sealed.

(Joan Mellen, A Farewell to Justice)


Q: What happened to the F.B.I. agent who took possession of your film? 
A: Supposedly, and I don't know the whole story so I'm repeating what researchers have told me,
that he died just a few weeks before he was to appear before the House Select Committee to give
testimony about the film.

(Beverly Oliver "The Babushka Lady" Interview, Gary James, Mobile Alabama Harbinger, 1998)





Additional deaths during the interview period: Apart from the above listed agents, Regis Kennedy who
was a senior agent in the FBI assigned to New Orleans also died during the HSCA interview period. He
was one of two FBI agents in New Orleans assigned as contact men for Lee Harvey Oswald in his role
as FBI informer. Regis Kennedy’s death would be considered curious, not suspicious, due to the
coincidence with his HSCA interview per Jerome A. Kroth. He informed the Assassinations Committee
in 1978 that Carlos Marcello, the alleged Mafia boss in New Orleans, was not affiliated to organized
crime and was a tomato salesman. Regis Kennedy died shortly after testifying before the Committee in
1978. Kennedy is said to have confiscated a film of the assassination taken by what conspiracy
researchers call “The Babushka lady film” which was seized before anyone ever viewed it, and was
never recovered.

(Did Six FBI Agents die before they could testify before the House Select Committee on Assassinations?, Skeptiks)


Regis suffered a heart attack the day before he was scheduled to testify before a grand jury regarding confiscated home
movies of the assassination.

The unreleased files contain an untitled communication from Justice Department files from Regis Kennedy to the special
agent in charge of the FBI’s New Orleans field office on May 18, 1967.

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Isn't it interesting that as we wallow through this swamp of evidence much of that evidence points to FBI agents as liars and manipulators of witnesses...


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Isn't it interesting that as we wallow through this swamp of evidence much of that evidence points to FBI agents as liars and manipulators of witnesses...




Selling tomatoes.


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Selling tomatoes.

...but Arjan
you will buy his tomatoes

Tom Hagen: [on the phone] This is Tom Hagen, calling for Vito Corleone at his request.
Now, you owe your Don a service. He has no doubt that you will repay him....

or this one...

Michael: The Corleone family is thinking of giving up all of its interest in the olive oil business, settling out here.
Now Moe Greene will sell us his share of the hotel and the casino so that it can be completely owned by the family. Tom.
[Hagen hands Michael some papers]

Fredo: Hey, Mike, are you sure about that?
I mean, Moe, loves the business. He never said anything to me about sellin'.

Michael: I'll make him an offer he can't refuse.


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« Last Edit: March 18, 2017, 07:58:07 PM by Michael Capasse »

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Do I have to call her on the phone and ask her?

Well, Walt, there are 2 major inconsistencies with her claim. Call her.

Number one is the hair. It's black and has a poofy bang. Where is the proof that she really wore wigs, had a black one, and wore it that day? It's believable, but seems more like it was manufactured after the black-haired photos were shown to Babs.

Number two is the camera she is holding. It appears to be a box, roughly in the 4x4x5 inch range. There seems to be nothing printed on the side we can see (where the film door might be) nor is there any winding mechanism on the side, in case the camera is facing the other direction (lens toward here).** No matter what brand of 8mm film camera she had, there doesn't ever seem to be a box-shaped film camera to match it to. Still cameras are known to be boxy, while movie cameras tend to be elongated to permit two spools of film and a front area that held the lens. Until the GoPro, I have never, ever seen a box-shaped movie/video camera.

So if Babs has an early GoPro, then fine. But... I sort of doubt that.

Here is a blow-up done by someone else. I have attempted to work on a similar photo in PhotoShop, and I came to a similar conclusion.

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While I don't buy the "Sears Tower" identification in full, the author makes a pretty good challenge to overcome. Boxes don't hold reel film very easily.

And all of the other "problems" with her identity... her age, stature, and calf dimension... all seem to be insignificant. None of those features are convincing enough to say this is or is not 17-YO Babs. (Remember, the Arkansas news report had her winning Miss Texas in 1959, making her perhaps 22 in 1963... although this seems to be fantastic/sensational/marketing lies. I checked the Miss Texas names from the 1950s and 60s... no Babs. I have no idea why she would bill herself or allow the newspaper to think she was former Miss Texas and a top-ten finisher in Atlantic City.)

** I think that any movie camera of the era would have a special film door with printed instructions or nameplate data (usually the left). The other side would have the spring winder (usually the right). Those mechanisms seems to be absent on the photo above. It appears to be a simpler point-and-shoot film camera where the back opens and there is just a shutter release and maybe a flash shoe. Some movie cameras would have a pair of non-lensed flip-up viewfinders on the top (for parallax) rather than the more elegant viewfinder on Zapruder's B&H that was built-in. Does this camera have a flip-up viewfinder? Possibly, but like the Sears Tower, it only has the rear sight.

The Sear Tower seems to be occasionally seen with no top handle. So while this is possible, I still don't see an exact match.


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...but Arjan
you will buy his tomatoes

Tom Hagen: [on the phone] This is Tom Hagen, calling for Vito Corleone at his request.
Now, you owe your Don a service. He has no doubt that you will repay him....

or this one...

Michael: The Corleone family is thinking of giving up all of its interest in the olive oil business, settling out here.
Now Moe Greene will sell us his share of the hotel and the casino so that it can be completely owned by the family. Tom.
[Hagen hands Michael some papers]

Fredo: Hey, Mike, are you sure about that?
I mean, Moe, loves the business. He never said anything to me about sellin'.

Michael: I'll make him an offer he can't refuse.

"a dog will continue to bite you if you cut off its tail. Whereas if you fed it tomatoes, it would cease to cause you trouble."


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