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 on: Today at 06:24:27 AM 
Started by Bob Prudhomme - Last post by Bob Prudhomme
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Pretty sure you just dodged what I pointed out.

 grin


Since you've contributed absolutely nothing of any value or substance to this debate, dodging your points is not at all difficult, as you are quite "pointless".

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 on: Today at 06:21:30 AM 
Started by Bob Prudhomme - Last post by Bill Chapman
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Here comes a post from Chapman to help "Jason" dodge my questions.

Pretty sure you just dodged what I pointed out.

 grin

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 on: Today at 05:17:51 AM 
Started by Bruce Marshall - Last post by Tony Fratini
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Top question for proving Gorilla Man was Lovelady is:
How it is possible he was filmed on the steps of TSBD at 12:50PM as you concluded while he was inside? You all take testimonies as 100% true, can you please explain how Lovelady was outside when he testified he went back in through the back door, stayed 30 minutes on the first floor and went up to the sixth with the police. Did they let him out for a smoke at 12:50PM?
Aleya film showing Lovelady without plaid shirt and it would be interesting to determine time of Lovelady in Aleya film. I think it was past 2:00PM. So, you have Lovelady having a smoke at 12:50PM, Lovelady without plaid shirt, Lovelady with plaid shirt. They you have Lovelady in 1970s showing plaid shirt that does not match the one from 1963...

You have way too many things not matching to claim 100% Gorilla Man was Lovelady.

For the very same reasons that BRW stated that he never was outside the TSBD - yet there he was.

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I would not trust anything that Lovelady stated in his WC testimony as being "accurate". 

Mr. BALL - You heard the shots. And how long after that was it before Gloria Calvary came up?
Mr. LOVELADY - Oh, approximately 3 minutes, I would say.
Mr. BALL - Three minutes is a long time.
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes, it's---I say approximately; I can't say because I don't have a watch; it could.






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 on: Today at 05:14:40 AM 
Started by Colin Crow - Last post by Mike Giampaolo
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not too mention the fact the poor old girl was half blind as well!

Let's add to this that her employer, mrs Johnson, testified about her that she was "Talking just sitting down and making up tales, you know, have you ever seen people like that? Just have a creative mind, there's nothing to it, and just make up and keep talking until she just makes a lie out of it."

And what do you get? A pretty unreliable witness, right?

So whats next? Did she just make everything up? Since you think you have discredited her what else makes you think what she says must not be true? Are you going to add context regarding here claims a car parked out front and honked a horn? A jacket was found under a car and he was last seen wearing one..and Oswald wasn't wearing one when he was arrested. What is your point?

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 on: Today at 04:38:57 AM 
Started by Bob Prudhomme - Last post by Bob Prudhomme
 

Here comes a post from Chapman to help "Jason" dodge my questions.

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 on: Today at 04:24:17 AM 
Started by Bob Prudhomme - Last post by Bob Prudhomme

"I never said I could raise it without drilling a new hole but even than that's assuming SA Frazier was correct. In either case, I never had the rifle in question on my bench so an argument based on conjecture that can neither be proven or disproven by independent means doesn't make much of a point. You are parsing words from someone who may or may not have been correct in the first place and do not know even yourself if it was accurate or not.

But, even then if I had to I could jam a shim in and bend h@ll out of it and make it work so either way your point is baseless."

Unfortunately for you, Simmons did not claim that they "jammed a shim in" and "bent h@ll out of it" and thus "made it work".

He simply claimed the scope mount was adjusted for elevation by the addition of a shim, sans jamming or h@ll bending. If you are going to explain how the scope was adjusted for elevation by the addition of a shim, I'm afraid you are going to have to work within these parameters.

BTW, this has nothing to do with whether Frazier was correct or not. A claim was made by Simmons that the scope on C2766 was corrected for elevation with the addition of a shim, and no new holes were drilled into the receiver on C2766 to make this happen.

ARE you going to explain how this was done, or are you now prepared to admit Simmons told a lie, and that you are a blowhard?

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 on: Today at 04:18:55 AM 
Started by Mick O'brien - Last post by Anthony Clayden
The DPD were taking quite a chance IMHO.
A judge may have ruled that asking for help from ACLU for legal assistance was not a request for a lawyer and therefore Oswald had not asked for one.
However a judge may have decided that it was a request for a lawyer and excluded any evidence gathered in the interrogation.

Lucky for them they allowed Oswald to be shot whilst in custody inside their police station.

(Why does the Benny Hill theme music run through my head every time I think of the DPD....)

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 on: Today at 04:15:12 AM 
Started by Mick O'brien - Last post by Bill Brown
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BY 2p Saturday

Marina is taken
Lee cannot reach her.  

Lee cannot reach Abt.  
Abt has already told the major media he would probably not be able to take the case.
Lee's 2nd choice of attorney has already been turned away.

Lee has no knowledge of these things and by 5pm tells Nicols (Dallas Bar) he is being held "incommunicado"
and would still like see an attorney from ACLU if he cannot get Abt

2:15 Line Up
Mr Whaley remembers what he said...
They knew what they were doing and they were trying to railroad him and he wanted his lawyer


Quote
2:15 Line Up
Mr Whaley remembers what he said...
They knew what they were doing and they were trying to railroad him and he wanted his lawyer

Are you sure you stated this correctly?  Please cite.

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 on: Today at 03:39:44 AM 
Started by Mick O'brien - Last post by Michael Capasse
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His "second choice" was not a lawyer but an ORGANIZATION ( not the same thing)


And the shovels come out
....as you pile it up

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 on: Today at 03:34:16 AM 
Started by Mick O'brien - Last post by Jason Mack
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The first time Lee was "up in the jail" was after midnight Dallas time /1:00 AM New York time.
who could he call? - you tell me - nice setup huh?

then
Saturday interrogation report from Bookout
(10:30 A.M.-1:10 P.M. Capt. Will Fritz's Office)

Oswald stated that he desired to contact Attorney Abt New York City,
indicating that Abt was the attorney who had defended the Smith Act Case about 1949 - 1950.
He stated that he does not know Attorney Abt personally.
Captain Fritz advised Oswald that arrangements would be immediately made whereby he could call Attorney Abt.

There is no evidence Lee was given this actual opportunity before this moment
up until this point constitutional right to lawyer: DENIED

Then further denied by his 2nd choice having been turned away the night before
when he needed it most

you got it bad don't you

It doesn't matter who he "wanted" only who he CALLED- now WHO was that?

No police dept is responsible or required to be a suspects "secretary" or get information for them.

His "second choice" was not a lawyer but an ORGANIZATION ( not the same thing)

Once again had he cleared his throat and said GET ME A LAWYER ( and shut up) then this whole thing would have taken a different turn.

Do you know that he didn't call Abt? ( get a busy signal, answering service etc?)

You really don't know how this works do you?

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