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Ian Lloyd

July 31, 2009, 09:32:38 AM

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JFK's head movement is usually described in terms of Stone's movie as "back-and-to-the-left". Some say that the Z-film shows an initial forward movement prior to the back-and-to-the-left movement, whereas others say the forward movement is just movement or blurring of the film due to movement of the camera at that moment, giving the impression of a slight forward movement of the head.

Being a complete "non-expert" in film & photography, I'd be interested to read some more "expert" opnions on this...

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Anthony Marsh

August 22, 2010, 12:07:37 AM

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Also, please see this video of a bullet entering a block of gelatin. Notice how the extreme force of the bullet creates a tsunami of action MOVING FORWARD. As the bullet exits the gelatin, see the "bubble" that "blobs" forward then snaps back - exactly the way JFK's gelatinous brain material did.

I am not sure what you think you see happening. You are not making yourself clear.
Are you saying that JFK was hit by a hollow point bullet?
Are you saying JFK was hit from the front or hit from the rear.
What do you mean by exactly the way JFK's brain did?
Describe what you think his brain material did.

As for the block of gelatin there is no Tsunami movement. There is a massive expansion due to the overpressure. You even see it on the exit side. Where do you see that same thing happen in the Zapruder film? Front or rear?
The block itself does not move. In one test shot the block jumps off the table. In another the impact of the bullet propels the block forward a couple of feet.
There are many variables at work and you can't generalize.

As the bullet exits the gelatin on the right side...a bubble of gelatin blasts outward then snaps back.

That is what JFK's brain appears to do on the Z film.

His head moves forward slightly after being hit from behind.

A portion of bone blasts out of his right skull.

His brain blob (similar to gelatin at this point) explodes outward, blasts outward to to our right.

It then snaps back, toward the rear, as JFK's body moves backward.

Yes, you see the overpressure cause the block of gelatin to expand bubble.
I don't see anything like that on the Zapruder film. I see two jets of debris leaving the top of the head.
His head was already moving forward before that shot.
I see no brain blob blasting out. I see the Devil's Flap open up in the right temple.

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Miles Scull

August 22, 2010, 12:20:50 AM

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Agreed.

That's my observation, as well.

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Mark Valenti

August 22, 2010, 02:37:18 AM

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I see the two jets of debris, yes. And I see the Devil's Flap open in the right temple.

But I also perceive brain blob that looks like it expands out of the Flap opening and then as JFK moves backward, it snaps back.

Maybe that's just the skull flap snapping backward, but it always looked like brain blob to me.

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Paul Danzig

August 23, 2010, 07:38:28 AM

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Excerpts from zapruder interview on Dallas Tv day of the MURDER

ZAPRUDER: I got out in, uh, about a half-hour earlier to get a good spot to shoot some pictures. And I found a spot, one of these concrete blocks they have down near that park, near the underpass. And I got on top there, there was another girl from my office, she was right behind me. And as I was shooting, as the president was coming down from Houston Street making his turn, it was about a half-way down there, I heard a shot, and he slumped to the side, like this. Then I heard another shot or two, I couldn't say it was one or two, and I saw his head practically open up, all blood and everything, and I kept on shooting. That's about all, I'm just sick, I can

The so-called forward movement and back and to the left is from 2 shots that were on top of each other......are you LONE NUTS saying he is wrong ...zapruder said he heard the first shot .. why didnt he hear the 2nd clearly that's because the shots were on top if each other.....makes perfect sense to me....

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Narciso Baldo

August 24, 2010, 06:39:20 PM

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Would a shot from the front of the fence have a different exit wound? I've been thinking that the direction loooks more like it comes from further back and more straight, like parrallel to the fence, but maybe near the triple overpass?

Alot of people think the last 2 shots were on top of each other, remember bowers interview with mark lane.

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Paul Danzig

August 25, 2010, 07:53:10 AM

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Yes witnessess heard last 2 shots on top of each other but to a Lone nut its ECHO after ECHO

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