I'm starting to think that I really was wrong in assuming Bugliosi was writing (or vetting) your text, because what passes for "reasoning" is so sophomoric it is truly an embarrassment.
Here are some comments on your latest attempts at rationalizing and explaining the record.
But, James, in David Lifton's body-alteration theory, we are expected to accept as true something that is so outlandish and unlikely (and, per witnesses like Dave Powers, so physically impossible even), that I do not think it's unreasonable to reject that theory out of hand. Just as it's not unreasonable to reject similar "impossible" theories out of hand -- e.g., Brian David Andersen's theory of JFK not being killed at all (he thinks that JFK himself activated a "pyrotechnics device" that was attached to his head, which made it falsely seem like his head was exploding)....and the "Jackie Did It" theory which has recently been postulated by some nutty dame at the a.c.j. newsgroup.
Those are theories that are not "reasonable" theories. And I put Mr. Lifton's body-alteration theory in that same category.
Your writing indicates you really do not function logically. My advice: stick to collecting (and posting) videos--but when you lift things off the air, and post them on your YouTube channel, you really ought to give proper credit as to the source--or have you forgotten the small matter of ethics? But. . . putting that aside (for the moment). . .
There is nothing physically impossible about taking the President's body out of the casket and moving it elsewhere on the plane, especially if the order to do so comes from "higher authority." What you seem to be avoiding is the fact that the body was in the coffin when the coffin was placed aboard Air Force One (at 2:18 CST) but could not possibly have been in the coffin when AF-1 landed (at 6 PM) because the body arrived at Bethesda, in a body bag, inside a shipping casket, (at 6:35 PM) about 20 minutes prior to the Dallas casket, which arrived in the naval ambulance at 6:55 PM.
Instead of sputtering and filling the Internet with insults, why not address the evidence?
The answer is simple: You can't. All you can do is sputter: "But that can't be. That's impossible!"
I have news for you, DVP: That's not an argument. And you'd never get a passing grade in law school, or in moot court, if you behaved like that.
I can't even imagine a screenwriter, on Law and Order, or any other comparable show, telling his supervisor (much less a jury): "Gee, I can't figure this out. All I know is it cannot be! So. . .there must be some other explanation for this data!"
I can just imagine the opposing attorney saying, "Your honor, can we break for lunch now? I'm getting hungry for some nourishment." And even: "Your honor, I know this violates normal procedure, but can we take up a collection, and send this guy to some night law school, or some classes in logic,or forensic debate, at a local Learning Annex? Because, frankly, this is just plain boring!"
Which means that the discrepancies in the testimony between the Parkland and Bethesda witnesses MUST have an alternate explanation to resolve them--other than the most extreme explanation of "body alteration" and "casket switching", etc.
What all of those alternative explanations are, I'll admit, I cannot say. But I truly think that the "multiple body arrivals" at Bethesda can be explained -- those witnesses, such as Dennis David, merely saw OTHER (non-JFK) caskets entering the Bethesda morgue. Does David Lifton have knowledge of there being absolutely NO other casket arrivals at Bethesda on the night on Nov. 22 OTHER than JFK's casket? If so, what is that proof?
The only explanation that makes any sense at all to me regarding the multiple casket entries is that those other caskets just simply had other (non-JFK) bodies in them.
Since I know you're an excellent collector of video and audio, and I can see what you're seeking, I thought I'd provide a description of what I think you're looking for, in the various audio and video archives. Mind you, I haven't located anything like it yet, but perhaps, with these helpful hints I'm now going to supply, you may yet find it.
WALTER CRONKITE: This is Walter Cronkite at CBS news headquarters in New York, and we've just received what appears to be breaking news at Bethesda. So now I want to switch to Nancy Hotstuff, at Bethesda Naval Hospital. Take it away, Nancy.
NANCY HOTSTUFF: Yes, Walter. We're here at the rear of Bethesda Naval Hospital, and we wanted to clarify what appears to be some confusion. The crowd at front is awaiting the arrival of the naval ambulance, which left Andrews Air Force Base at 6:10, an ambulance carrying Attorney General Robert Kennedy, Jacqueline Kennedy, and the the Dallas coffin which was offloaded from Air Force One. And that ambulance is due to arrive in about 20 minutes. But here at the rear of Bethesda, a black hearse has arrived, containing some half dozen men in civilian clothes, who have identified themselves as Secret Service agents, and they just brought in a shipping casket to the morgue. The men were told this was President Kennedy's body. And that this deception was ordered just in case "anybody tried to hijack the body."
CRONKITE: But Nancy, couldn't this simply be a situation in which another coffin has arrived at Bethesda, with someone else's body, for another burial?
NANCY HOTSTUFF: Well, we looked into that, but there are no other burials scheduled at Arlington this weekend, and the CO at Bethesda says there are no other bodies scheduled to arrive. But there's a witness inside the morgue, a Paul O'Connor, and he says that the body in that casket was that of President Kennedy!
CRONKITE: Nancy, I don't know what to say, but for this kind of extraordinary case, I'm calling in our special correspondent, David Von Pain, the third. He specializes in cases like this. Von Pain. . .are you there?
VON PAIN: Yes, I'm here Walter, and of course, I just want to say, it doesn't really matter what these people are witnessing. The world is cluttered with these reports of things that just cannot be. You know, my grandfather, Samuel Von Pain, ran into this decades ago.
CRONKITE: Yes, tell us about that. It had to do with the sinking of the Titanic, am I not correct?
VON PAIN: Yes, that's correct. So many people were under the illusion that the world's greatest passenger ship was struck by an iceberg, but of course he knew that couldn't be true, and he presented his analysis at the time.
CRONKITE: Well, now what do you think of this evidence.
VON PAIN: It just cannot be true. I just know it. I feel it in my bones.
CRONKITE: I'm sorry I have to cut you off, but we have another report from Bethesda. Take it away, Nancy Hotstuff.
NANCY Hotstuff: Yes, Walter. Well, we've just got another report here, from inside the morgue. And it seems that that coffin that was brought to the morgue was opened by the crew there, and we've received a report from a Navy medical technician, one Paul O'Connor, and he says it was President Kennedy's body, all right, and that it was inside a body bag.
CRONKITE: Von Pain, what do you think of that?
VON PAIN: Impossible, Walter. The body was wrapped in sheets, at Parkland Hospital. So that just can't be, Walter. This really does remind me of those silly peope who thought the Titanic was hit by an iceberg. Perhaps there is some other explanation for why a witness would say something like that.
CRONKITE: I hate to interrupt you, Von Pain, but we've got more breaking news from Bethesda. Take it away, Nancy Hotstuff.
Nancy: Yes, Walter; well now we've received reports that when the body bag was opened, and the President's body was placed on the table, it was clear that the brain had been removed; and also, according to two FBI agents, a source informs us that the two autopsy doctors have said that it was "apparent" that there had been "surgery of the head area, namely, in the top of the skull."
CRONKITE: Von Pain, what do you think of that?
VON PAIN: Impossible, Walter, these doctors are just confused.
CRONKITE: But an FBI source informs us that they wrote down what one of the doctor's said.
VON PAIN: I know, but this goes back to the confusion with the Titanic. Listen, I have a source that tells me that one of the doctors had just returned from the barber that afternoon, and when he entered the morgue, the other one --Humes, I think his name was said, "I say there Boswell, that's some hair cut. Quite a severe hair cut there, my friend. Looks like you've had some "surgery of the head area, namely, in the top of your skull!" You see, Walter, these FBI agents are not very well trained, they just make notes about what they heard, so all this is just one big misunderstanding.
CRONKITE: Like the Titanic.
VON PAIN: Yes, just like the Titanic.
CRONKITE: Well thank you, David Von Pain, and now we're going to back to Bethesda, and now to the front of the hospital, where the naval ambulance has arrived with the Dallas coffin. But Nancy, just a minute. . didn't the body already arrive?
END OF TRANSCRIPT
DSL (contd): So you see, DVP, this is the sort of thing you should be looking for, and when you find it, I do hope you will post it on your YouTube site. And you will go down in history, as having shown that all of the data about multiple coffins is just one big misunderstanding. . . you know, like the Titanic.
And now, I'll let you have the last word, DVP, because you spout so much wisdom.
DVP: And I'd also have to ask -- If the plotters KNEW that Kennedy's body had been taken out of an expensive ornamental casket in Dallas (and they surely knew that, right?), then why on Earth would they have placed JFK in some el-cheapo pinkish-gray "shipping" casket for the entry at Bethesda? Didn't the plotters think anybody would notice the (huge) difference in casket types? Or didn't they think anybody would care--or report the differences?
DSL: Well, no David, I guess they weren't that bright. Or maybe things had gone wrong, and they were improvising under some extreme conditions.
DVP: The same logical question must also be asked about the body wrappings -- Why would anyone place JFK's body into a zipped body bag, when they knew he had been wrapped only in sheets when they swiped the body off of Air Force One in Dallas?
DSL . . Ah yes. . these questions you are asking are oh so profound.
5/9/13; 2:35 AM PDT
Los Angeles, California
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