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THE PATHETIC BAD-MOUTHING OF WALTER CRONKITE  (Read 4224 times)

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A KOOK NAMED "ThomZajac" SPEWED THIS REPULSIVE B.S. ON 7/18/09:

>>> "Okay, I tried watching the Cronkite PBS special. I tried. Cronkite is nothing short of a complete disgrace, working very hard to appear reasonable, open minded, and even handed, when in fact--and there really can be absolutely no denying it--he is doing everything he possibly can to convince the viewer that the lone assassin conclusion was a thoughtful, HONEST, and reasonable one. Oh, he says, it might be possible that Oswald had an accomplice, but a careful examination of the facts and evidence using all the latest scientific methods makes the long gunman conclusion even more viable than it was twenty five years ago, blah blah blah blah blah. I'm surprised that some of your guys are so seduced by spokesman for the CIA. Cronkite was BAD for America. BAD for democracy. He was a BAD man." <<<


FOLLOWED BY THIS FROM ANOTHER KOOK NAMED KEN MURRAY (NOT THE FORMER ACTOR AND "HOLLYWOOD HOME MOVIE" GURU OF THE 1940s, 1950s, AND 1960s, HOWEVER; THIS IS A DIFFERENT KEN MURRAY; THIS ONE ON DANKBAAR'S FORUM HAS A FIXATION FOR ME....PLUS HE'S A REAL NUTHATCH TOO FROM ALL PRESENT INDICATIONS RE. THE JFK ASSASSINATION):

>>> "Joseph Goebbels would also be proud of one David Von Pein and his spewing propaganda on the JFK assassination." <<<


A KOOK NAMED "BOB" THEN STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE AND OFFERED UP THESE GEMS:

>>> "Von Pein "in the ass" and his ilk are just an extension of the disinformation machine that the MSM uses, both with the way the news is delivered, what news is delivered and when the news is delivered. The disinformation machine also makes sure that some real news is never talked about in the MSM...things like the Bu$h involvement in the assassination of JFK and events like 9/11. I would bet that less than 10% of the American population know about Operation Northwoods in 1962 (a similar plan to the events of 9/11 hatched by the neocons) or know that Prescott Bu$h was not only a Nazi sympathizer and investor, but also involved in a coup to overthrow FDR. The Bu$H family and those in the power elite help fund and support cowards like Von Pein, McAdams and Mack to keep people away from the real truth of 11/22/1963 and the REAL recent history in the United States." <<<


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When you read silly tripe like the above three messages from Dankbaar's "All Kook Network" [AKN-TV and AKN-Radio], it just makes you feel kinda sick....doesn't it?

I've heard multiple people starting to bad-mouth the late Walter Cronkite, who was unquestionably a very good and decent and HONEST man. The bad-mouthers include veteran conspiracy nutcase and marathon Internet poster Anthony Marsh. Marsh said this about the Most Trusted Man In America just 24 hours after Mr. Cronkite's passing (and the  cop named Marsh didn't even have the decency to spell Mr. Cronkite's name correctly; twice in one post Marsh misspelled it too; probably deliberately, in order to denigrate Walter's memory even more by mangling the spelling of his great name):

      "Who was it who said we should not speak ill of the dead? How long should that last? Many of us researchers have always hated Chronkite [sic] for his being a CIA stooge and participating in the cover-up. Dan Rather the same thing." -- A. Marsh; 07/18/09

The above negative comments about Walter Cronkite are beyond pathetic -- they're downright sickening.

Marsh should be ashamed that he allowed those back-stabbing words to slip from his keyboard. But he's not ashamed at all. And neither are "Bob" and "Thom" and Ken at Dankbaar's snake pit of crackpottery.

Of course, it's to be pretty much expected that many of the outer-fringe JFK conspiracy theorists almost HAVE to believe that Walter Cronkite (along with Dan Rather, Eric Sevareid, and Eddie Barker of CBS News as well) are devious Government-sponsored shills of some kind.

Because if Cronkite, et al, are NOT the cover-up artists that people like "Thom" and Tony Marsh believe them to be -- then it's very, very likely that those conspiracy theorists' favorite "patsy" for all 11/22/63 murders in Dallas was GUILTY of the two murders he was charged with committing that day in Texas.

And that's true because of the extensive and detailed re-investigation into President Kennedy's assassination that was conducted by the CBS Television Network in 1967 (and, to a somewhat lesser extent, by CBS in 1964 as well).

Every single test and re-examination of evidence that was done by CBS in 1964 and 1967 favors the likelihood of Lee Harvey Oswald being able to perform his evil deed of double-murder -- by himself! -- on November 22nd, 1963. Without a doubt.

So, if Cronkite & Company (including Rather, Sevareid, and Barker, among many others at CBS News in the mid-1960s) were being truthful and above-board with the facts and evidence surrounding JFK's assassination during those lengthy CBS specials that they did in '64 and '67....where does that leave the "Anybody But Oswald" conspiracy nuts?

It leaves them up a tree without a ladder (and without a second gunman on the Grassy Knoll either).

But, as sad as it is, those people who are bashing a very good man like Walter Cronkite are probably PROUD of their hateful words. People like that usually are. And people like that rarely feel themselves getting red in the face after saying something incredibly stupid.

And when it comes to incredibly-stupid statements being spoken on the Internet in the last couple of days since the sad news of Mr. Cronkite's death, the one repeated below takes home first prize in the "Most Pathetic & Vomit-Inducing" category:

      "Cronkite is nothing short of a complete disgrace. .... Cronkite was BAD for America. BAD for democracy. He was a BAD man."

I feel the urge to slap somebody silly after reading the above garbage. But it wouldn't do any good. Because the person who penned the above junk doesn't have any feelings at all .... so he'd never even feel my backhanded blow to his rotten face.

God bless you, Walter C.

I miss you already.

David Von Pein
July 19, 2009


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I was talking about the collective "conspiracy nuts" and you know it! Holding a different opinion to you does not make anyone a "nut".

What's the old saying?....

If you can't stand the heat....


Addendum -- Yes, William Kane, I'll readily admit that sometimes I do, indeed, have a (bad) habit of painting all conspiracy theorists with the same "kook" brush. Sorry.

But you should see some of the "Anybody But Oswald" nuts that I deal with over at the alt.conspiracy.jfk newsgroup. It's difficult to hold my tongue and not write "kook" every six seconds when talking to these nutcases.

For example....

There's one  cop over there who actually accuses 18-year-old TSBD employee Danny Arce of killing the President. (No kidding.)

Naturally, he doesn't have a stitch of evidence to back up his insane theory. But does that matter to him? Not a bit.

And there's another guy who has decided to mangle all of Howard Brennan's WC testimony -- to the point where this guy named "Walt" is of the skewed opinion that Brennan was actually describing a gunman on the WEST side of the Book Depository, instead of the EAST end of the building. (Even though Brennan drew circles around the EAST-side window on TWO different Warren Commission exhibits.)

And there's another guy named Thomas H. Purvis who does believe that Oswald did it alone...but he has decided (on his own, naturally) that JFK was hit in the head TWICE FROM BEHIND, instead of just the one head shot.

So, Purvis has decided (like all CTers do as well) that he'll totally ignore all of the autopsy photos and the autopsy report and the testimony (for years on end) of all three autopsy surgeons.

I could go on for hours....but I'm sure you get the "kook" point I've just made.

Regards,
David Von Pein
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wow i did'nt know about a 18 year old being accused of shooting the president. thumbs1xx


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Just for those who are unaware.

Mr. DVP was foolish enough to show the SS assassination re-enactment video in which all three shot impacts were marked and surveyed in on Elm St.

To include the shot#3 impact down at survey stationing 4+95.


So, it Tom P. is "full of it", may just as well include the US Secret Service and the FBI, as both investigative bodies, in totally separation assassination re-enactments, determined that the third/last/final shot impacted down directly in front of where James Altgens was standing.


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Thomas H. Purvis' data is screwy somewhere, because as anyone can easily see the "third/last/final" shot impact on the Z-Film is at Z313, i.e., many feet before we get to Jim Altgens' position on Elm Street:

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Who in the world thinks a shot hit JFK or Connally at this point in the Z-Film, which is Z350 (which is a point when both victims are pretty much completely out of sight in the car)?:



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Thomas H. Purvis' data is screwy somewhere, because as anyone can easily see the "third/last/final" shot impact on the Z-Film is at Z313, i.e., many feet before we get to Jim Altgens' position on Elm Street:

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Who in the world thinks a shot hit JFK or Connally at this point in the Z-Film, which is Z350 (which is a point when both victims are pretty much completely out of sight in the car)?:




Well according to the S.S. and FBI re-enactment this is where they position the shots why not ask them Dave ,Or show us the re-enactment film by th S.S. and look for the last cone?.


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Well watching Walter Cronkite deliver the news that  the president had died brings a lump to my throat every time i watch that particular video and hear the mans voice break ...............


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Well according to the S.S. and FBI re-enactment this is where they position the shots why not ask them Dave ,Or show us the re-enactment film by th S.S. and look for the last cone?

At the 10:45 mark in the SS film, a man runs into the street in three separate locations and leans over and does something. The third (western-most) location looks to me to be just about right for the Z313 head shot (directly in front of Zapruder's position).

Keep in mind that at the time of this SS film (on 11/27/63), the theory about the shooting did not include the SBT. It was a "3 shots & 3 hits" theory, which was later properly discarded by the WC.

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The Secret Service, during their assassination re-enactment of December 1963, determined that all three shots struck.  With impact of the last shot being at survey stationing 4+95.

Later, after the FBI assumed all responsibility for investigation, they too, on 2/7/64, conducted an assassination re-enactment in which the third/last/final shot impacted at survey stationing 4+95.


Of course, this was all hidden from the public and we were thereafter fed the BS of the Z313 impact (at survey stationing 4+65.3) as being the last shot fired.

Rest assured that it is quite irrelevant to me personally as to whom one wishes to belive.

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A KOOK NAMED "BOB" THEN STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE AND OFFERED UP THESE GEMS

>>> "Von Pein "in the ass" and his ilk are just an extension of the disinformation machine that the MSM uses, both with the way the news is delivered, what news is delivered and when the news is delivered. The disinformation machine also makes sure that some real news is never talked about in the MSM...things like the Bu$h involvement in the assassination of JFK and events like 9/11. I would bet that less than 10% of the American population know about Operation Northwoods in 1962 (a similar plan to the events of 9/11 hatched by the neocons) or know that Prescott Bu$h was not only a Nazi sympathizer and investor, but also involved in a coup to overthrow FDR. The Bu$H family and those in the power elite help fund and support cowards like Von Pein, McAdams and Mack to keep people away from the real truth of 11/22/1963 and the REAL recent history in the United States." <<<

I like Bob already  thumbs1xx


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Squeeze the trigger at 17:20.  Why wait?  To show off?  I suppose he held the rifle behind his back on the final shot.


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May wish to check into James Altgens and his testimony.

Especially since he is the only witness to testify as to the results of the impact of shot# 3 (the last shot) to the head of JFK.

Tom

P.S. There are others who observed the impact, just that they did not describe it so clearly as did Mr. Altgens.



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