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My Dear Fellows,

there is hard evidence for the LN-theory to be wrong:
Windshield frame dent (photographic evidence) plus Tague bullet (photographic evidence) plus manhole mark (photographic evidence) plus JFK backwound (photographic evidence) plus JFK headwounds (photographic evidence) plus Connally's wounds (photographic evidence) make

at least 6 bullets!

(Connally's wounds cannot have come from the same bullet as JFK's back wound, cause Connally turned around and back after JFK got the back wound (Zapruder photographic evidence)  His hat, which would have probably shown that Connally was hit by two bullets had miraculously disappeared. JFK's headwound bullet trajectory does not lead to Connally's thigh either.)

In TSBD they found only three shells on the floor and one in the rifle maybe and nobody could have shot all these rounds in such a short time with that rifle so somebody else must have shot, too! (And JFK got 2 headshots anyway (Zapruder photographic evidence) and some even say there was a scratch on the north Elm side and in the south grass, too. Nobody saw Oswald shoot, rather other men were seen in the 6th floor east and west windows.  ==>

LN-theory = wrong!

For more hard evidence and a Mount Everest high pile of indication watch the JFK-related enlightenment videos of GJJdude (Gil Jesus) on youtube, listen to James Files', Judyth Baker's, Tosh Plumlee's and Chauncey Holt's confessions carefully, study As a guest, you are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, read the books of Wim Dankbaar, Pamela Ray, Robert Stich, Webster Tarpley, Fletcher Prouty, Daniel Marvin, Russ Baker and many more authors who have got the brains for JFK. Feel free to doubt and remain sceptic, but think about what is politically responsible twice in a time where you have the mafia of world exploitation at the peak of the power pyramid.

Also let's reflect on the word "conspiracy". Of course it was not a conspiracy in the simple meaning of the word. It was a power demonstration and hierarchy-tightening of the more or less hidden government of the money-printing-oil-robbing-anti-catholic-war-and-conflict-keeping-machine.

It's our task to overcome this machine by brave debunking of lies and of selfish life styles at the cost of the others and start a green, peaceful, educated and social lifestyle independantly from the "eternal growth" and "progress" propaganda of the idle media and oligarch guys.

Chris

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The brain matter cloud to the rear indicates a shot from the front pretty much.
And there is a rapid reverse of head moving impulse which needed so much energy that it could have only come from a bullet from the front shortly after the bullet from behind.


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Yes the red cloud exits to the front. But the a big part of the white cloud exits backward. Now you can blame it to the driving wind, but I would say it's too much matter for being just reversed by the wind. My estimation is, the first headshot bullet hit from behind and created the red cloud and the flapout, but the second headshot came in just a split of a second later and caused these white jet streams but did not cause a red loud to the rear, cause the blood was already blown out there or the rear part of his head was altered. .

There is nothing that exits the back.

Mike
if nothing exited the back why is JFK shirt full of blood on the back.... on the opposite side of the so called exit wound in the front.......Exit wound Jfk's (front right)....Blood on shirt ( back Left)


Because he was also shot in the back. Do you suppose there is any way to tell the difference between blood coming from the back wound rather than the head wound?


That blood is not caused from a shot in the back, Yes he was shot in the back but that blood is not from that shot.......when kennedy is ht in the head he slumps and falls to the left that would make the head wound (front right) would NOT be touching the seat......so hot does the head wound blood get to the back right of his back........unless there WAS an exit wound to His left part of the head.....which would make more sense for a shot from the front


Shot in head, bullet exits front right, body slumps to the left.  Left then becomes "down" Blood follows gravity.  Does not take a genius to figure that out.


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My Dear Fellows,

there is hard evidence for the LN-theory to be wrong:
Windshield frame dent (photographic evidence) plus Tague bullet (photographic evidence) plus manhole mark (photographic evidence) plus JFK backwound (photographic evidence) plus JFK headwounds (photographic evidence) plus Connally's wounds (photographic evidence) make

at least 6 bullets!

(Connally's wounds cannot have come from the same bullet as JFK's back wound, cause Connally turned around and back after JFK got the back wound (Zapruder photographic evidence)  His hat, which would have probably shown that Connally was hit by two bullets had miraculously disappeared. JFK's headwound bullet trajectory does not lead to Connally's thigh either.)

In TSBD they found only three shells on the floor and one in the rifle maybe and nobody could have shot all these rounds in such a short time with that rifle so somebody else must have shot, too! (And JFK got 2 headshots anyway (Zapruder photographic evidence) and some even say there was a scratch on the north Elm side and in the south grass, too. Nobody saw Oswald shoot, rather other men were seen in the 6th floor east and west windows.  ==>

LN-theory = wrong!

For more hard evidence and a Mount Everest high pile of indication watch the JFK-related enlightenment videos of GJJdude (Gil Jesus) on youtube, listen to James Files', Judyth Baker's, Tosh Plumlee's and Chauncey Holt's confessions carefully, study As a guest, you are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, read the books of Wim Dankbaar, Pamela Ray, Robert Stich, Webster Tarpley, Fletcher Prouty, Daniel Marvin, Russ Baker and many more authors who have got the brains for JFK. Feel free to doubt and remain sceptic, but think about what is politically responsible twice in a time where you have the mafia of world exploitation at the peak of the power pyramid.

Also let's reflect on the word "conspiracy". Of course it was not a conspiracy in the simple meaning of the word. It was a power demonstration and hierarchy-tightening of the more or less hidden government of the money-printing-oil-robbing-anti-catholic-war-and-conflict-keeping-machine.

It's our task to overcome this machine by brave debunking of lies and of selfish life styles at the cost of the others and start a green, peaceful, educated and social lifestyle independantly from the "eternal growth" and "progress" propaganda of the idle media and oligarch guys.

Chris

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The brain matter cloud to the rear indicates a shot from the front pretty much.
And there is a rapid reverse of head moving impulse which needed so much energy that it could have only come from a bullet from the front shortly after the bullet from behind.

Some of your instincts are correct. The acoustical evidence indicates 5 shots. But each thing you list may not need its own whole bullet.
Some point of damage could be caused by a fragment rather than a whole bullet, separate shot. Such as the dent to the chrome topping and the mark near Tague.


I have heard this before but the dent was quite sizeable so it would have had to been a large fragment.  What type of bullet could have done this?  FMJ aren't supposed to segment so this would be evidence of a different type of bullet being used.


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My Dear Fellows,

there is hard evidence for the LN-theory to be wrong:
Windshield frame dent (photographic evidence) plus Tague bullet (photographic evidence) plus manhole mark (photographic evidence) plus JFK backwound (photographic evidence) plus JFK headwounds (photographic evidence) plus Connally's wounds (photographic evidence) make

at least 6 bullets!

(Connally's wounds cannot have come from the same bullet as JFK's back wound, cause Connally turned around and back after JFK got the back wound (Zapruder photographic evidence)  His hat, which would have probably shown that Connally was hit by two bullets had miraculously disappeared. JFK's headwound bullet trajectory does not lead to Connally's thigh either.)

In TSBD they found only three shells on the floor and one in the rifle maybe and nobody could have shot all these rounds in such a short time with that rifle so somebody else must have shot, too! (And JFK got 2 headshots anyway (Zapruder photographic evidence) and some even say there was a scratch on the north Elm side and in the south grass, too. Nobody saw Oswald shoot, rather other men were seen in the 6th floor east and west windows.  ==>

LN-theory = wrong!

For more hard evidence and a Mount Everest high pile of indication watch the JFK-related enlightenment videos of GJJdude (Gil Jesus) on youtube, listen to James Files', Judyth Baker's, Tosh Plumlee's and Chauncey Holt's confessions carefully, study As a guest, you are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, read the books of Wim Dankbaar, Pamela Ray, Robert Stich, Webster Tarpley, Fletcher Prouty, Daniel Marvin, Russ Baker and many more authors who have got the brains for JFK. Feel free to doubt and remain sceptic, but think about what is politically responsible twice in a time where you have the mafia of world exploitation at the peak of the power pyramid.

Also let's reflect on the word "conspiracy". Of course it was not a conspiracy in the simple meaning of the word. It was a power demonstration and hierarchy-tightening of the more or less hidden government of the money-printing-oil-robbing-anti-catholic-war-and-conflict-keeping-machine.

It's our task to overcome this machine by brave debunking of lies and of selfish life styles at the cost of the others and start a green, peaceful, educated and social lifestyle independantly from the "eternal growth" and "progress" propaganda of the idle media and oligarch guys.

Chris

P.S.: Watch again:
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The brain matter cloud to the rear indicates a shot from the front pretty much.
And there is a rapid reverse of head moving impulse which needed so much energy that it could have only come from a bullet from the front shortly after the bullet from behind.

Some of your instincts are correct. The acoustical evidence indicates 5 shots. But each thing you list may not need its own whole bullet.
Some point of damage could be caused by a fragment rather than a whole bullet, separate shot. Such as the dent to the chrome topping and the mark near Tague.


I have heard this before but the dent was quite sizeable so it would have had to been a large fragment.  What type of bullet could have done this?  FMJ aren't supposed to segment so this would be evidence of a different type of bullet being used.

I don't see any way that the two large fragments could have fallen into the front seat compartment unless they caused the damage to the limousine, especially the dent of the chrome topping. I believe the nose fragment is what hit the chrome topping. The shape of the dent perfectly matches the nose. The appearance of the base fragment does not seem consistent with the dent. It appears to me that an intact whole WCC M-C FMJ bullet hit something else first and then broke into several pieces. It is typical that a long and heavy FMJ will break up at the cannelure like that. Then the lead core was squeezed out of the base fragment.
My own personal theory is that the lead core ricocheted off the windshield, bounced into the back of the rearview mirror and then fell into the defroster vent, never to be found.
Most WC defenders agree with Lattimer's theory that the fragments came from the head shot. Some of us conspiracy believers think they came from the separate shot which hit Connally's wrist.
I think one has a theory that the lead core is what went through Connally's wrist and landed in his thigh.


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