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April 18, 2009, 01:16:36 AM
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I noticed this second car immediately on looking at Rick's latest gif in the JFK Bonus Materials thread. Given the unknown then and now variables, I am still not convinced that we are not seeing the car as I have illustrated in the other thread. I now see a second darker car near the first white colored car. The shadows coming from the car appear to be consistent with the direction of shadows cast on Nov 22nd 1963. I have made an illustration using the last frame from Rick's animation, which to me appears to show a second car. I'm reminded of the old saying..If it looks like a Duck, Walks like a Duck, Quacks like a Duck, Flies like a Duck, then it probably is a Duck. In this case, we appear to have 2 Ducks, neither of them being lame. 
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September 28, 2009, 03:16:57 AM
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Between the girl and the cop form the beginning until 2 seconds in, ( if this is the right spot, I can't really tell for sure ) but it seems as though that figure appears here. Excellent eye Mark. Search via forum search. If you can't find find something please tell. Martin The video was taken not intantly after the shooting. Martin
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February 15, 2010, 09:07:12 PM
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Time to move this discussion to its proper place. Nix frames 071-095....stabilized....angle corrected.... with focus just on the stockade fence area. I have slowed down this animation slightly (approx. 16 FPS), so you can better watch the movement. Also, I have added in a brief delay at the end of this animation. Rick   By As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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February 15, 2010, 10:08:52 PM
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Woah!!! How can we scrutinize something that is moving that fast Duncan? Time to slow things down, so we can compare each individual frame... one at a time.....and allow our eyes to see if we are seeing the same thing happening at both of your red arrowed areas. The end result? We do not see the same things happening in these two areas you are drawing attention to. 
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February 15, 2010, 11:52:27 PM
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I've slowed it down, and uploaded it to Youtube, so that viewers can watch the video on full screen by clicking the full screen icon on the Youtube player In my opinion, the movements are identical.
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February 16, 2010, 01:24:01 AM
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In my opinion, the movements are identical. Well I can say that everyone is certainly entitled to his or her opinion. Yours just happens to disagree with mine Duncan. Frame for frame...in the animation you posted and the one which I slowed down considerably, you cannot tell me that what you see happening below one arrowed area is happening exactly the same below the other arrowed area. That's just not happening. I see frames in which something is "sticking outwards at an angle" below the arrow to the left, while at the same time beneath the arrow on the right there is nothing. Hopefully someone else here sees this the exact same way. Rick
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February 16, 2010, 01:56:13 AM
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I noticed this second car immediately on looking at Rick's latest gif in the JFK Bonus Materials thread. Given the unknown then and now variables, I am still not convinced that we are not seeing the car as I have illustrated in the other thread. I now see a second darker car near the first white colored car. The shadows coming from the car appear to be consistent with the direction of shadows cast on Nov 22nd 1963. I have made an illustration using the last frame from Rick's animation, which to me appears to show a second car. I'm reminded of the old saying..If it looks like a Duck, Walks like a Duck, Quacks like a Duck, Flies like a Duck, then it probably is a Duck. In this case, we appear to have 2 Ducks, neither of them being lame.  hat;; Yes it is a second car, and I see a third beside it.
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February 16, 2010, 02:12:26 AM
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I have used a yellow arrow to point out an opening in the tree that moves in perfect unison with Rick's "human head". In Duncan's youtube video (or even Rick's gif a few posts above), watch the area that I have pointed out. This leads me to believe that the "head" behind the fence is really just a part of the branch that is causing the opening in the tree to "bounce" up and down. 
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February 16, 2010, 05:47:03 AM
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I have used a yellow arrow to point out an opening in the tree that moves in perfect unison with Rick's "human head". In Duncan's youtube video (or even Rick's gif a few posts above), watch the area that I have pointed out. This leads me to believe that the "head" behind the fence is really just a part of the branch that is causing the opening in the tree to "bounce" up and down.  Bill, I'm sorry but I must disagree with you. I have looked at these frames and the animations more times than you'd really care to know. And I can tell you this is not a tree branch. Nor is it the wheel of an automobile. This is human movement....human activity.... behind the stockade fence within seconds of the fatal head shot. There is no doubt, at least in my mind. Has anyone here ever seen a tree branch that looks like this? Also, note the color of the top of the head, or hat atop of the head. I see no shades or even a hint of green. In fact, I see no shades of green anywhere in this figures complex movements behind the fence. None. Here is an enlarged crop from Nix frame 093....the most that we can see of the top of this man's head, or hat on top of his head.  By As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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