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The Nix Parking Lot Re: Rick Needham's Gif - A Second Car?  (Read 23756 times)

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I noticed this second car immediately on looking at Rick's latest gif in the JFK Bonus Materials thread.
Given the unknown then and now variables, I am still not convinced that we are not seeing the car as I have illustrated in the other thread.
I now see a second darker car near the first white colored car. The shadows coming from the car appear to be consistent with the direction of shadows cast on Nov 22nd 1963.
I have made an illustration using the last frame from Rick's animation, which to me appears to show a second car.
I'm reminded of the old saying..If it looks like a Duck, Walks like a Duck, Quacks like a Duck, Flies like a Duck, then it probably is a Duck.
In this case, we appear to have 2 Ducks, neither of them being lame.



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Between the girl and the cop form the beginning until 2 seconds in, ( if this is the right spot,  I can't really tell for sure ) but it seems as though that figure appears here.


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Time to move this discussion to its proper place.

Nix frames 071-095....stabilized....angle corrected....
with focus just on the stockade fence area. I have
slowed down this animation slightly (approx. 16 FPS),
so you can better watch the movement. Also, I have
added in a brief delay at the end of this animation.



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And here are the entire Nix frames 071-095 stabilized....angle corrected,
and running at a true 18 FPS.

***See an animation of just the stockade fence area only on page
21 of this topic... which I just posted a moment earlier***



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Thanks Duncan, that's what I was talking about. What appears to be motion behind the fence at one point is identical to the appearance of motion just a few feet away. Either there are people behind both spots or it's not a person at all, it's just a kind of illusion.

For further reference, simply isolate ANY point in the frame and watch as it percolates and bobs in the same manner as the "figure" does.


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Woah!!!


How can we scrutinize something that is moving that fast Duncan?
Time to slow things down, so we can compare each individual frame...
one at a time.....and allow our eyes to see if we are seeing the same
thing happening at both of your red arrowed areas.

The end result?

We do not see the same things happening in these two areas you
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I've slowed it down, and uploaded it to Youtube, so that viewers can watch the video on full screen by clicking the full screen icon on the Youtube player
In my opinion, the movements are identical.

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In my opinion, the movements are identical.



Well I can say that everyone is certainly entitled to his or her opinion.
Yours just happens to disagree with mine Duncan.

Frame for frame...in the animation you posted and the one which I
slowed down considerably, you cannot tell me that what you see
happening below one arrowed area is happening exactly the same below
the other arrowed area. That's just not happening. I see frames in
which something is "sticking outwards at an angle" below the arrow to
the left, while at the same time beneath the arrow on the right there is
nothing.

Hopefully someone else here sees this the exact same way.


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I noticed this second car immediately on looking at Rick's latest gif in the JFK Bonus Materials thread.
Given the unknown then and now variables, I am still not convinced that we are not seeing the car as I have illustrated in the other thread.
I now see a second darker car near the first white colored car. The shadows coming from the car appear to be consistent with the direction of shadows cast on Nov 22nd 1963.
I have made an illustration using the last frame from Rick's animation, which to me appears to show a second car.
I'm reminded of the old saying..If it looks like a Duck, Walks like a Duck, Quacks like a Duck, Flies like a Duck, then it probably is a Duck.
In this case, we appear to have 2 Ducks, neither of them being lame.

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Yes it is a second car, and I see a third beside it.


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I have used a yellow arrow to point out an opening in the tree that moves in perfect unison with Rick's "human head".

In Duncan's youtube video (or even Rick's gif a few posts above), watch the area that I have pointed out.  This leads me to believe that the "head" behind the fence is really just a part of the branch that is causing the opening in the tree to "bounce" up and down.



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I have used a yellow arrow to point out an opening in the tree that moves in perfect unison with Rick's "human head".

In Duncan's youtube video (or even Rick's gif a few posts above), watch the area that I have pointed out.  This leads me to believe that the "head" behind the fence is really just a part of the branch that is causing the opening in the tree to "bounce" up and down.





Bill, I'm sorry but I must disagree with you. I have looked at these frames and the animations
more times than you'd really care to know. And I can tell you this is not a tree branch.
Nor is it the wheel of an automobile. This is human movement....human activity.... behind the
stockade fence within seconds of the fatal head shot. There is no doubt, at least in my mind.

Has anyone here ever seen a tree branch that looks like this?
Also, note the color of the top of the head, or hat atop of the head. I see no shades
or even a hint of green. In fact, I see no shades of green anywhere in this figures
complex movements behind the fence. None.

Here is an enlarged crop from Nix frame 093....the most that we can see of the top of this man's head,
or hat on top of his head.





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Rick, what do you have to say to the fact that the opening in the tree (that my yellow arrow points to) bounces up and down in perfect unison with your "human movement"?

Pretend for a moment that the white gap in the tree which I have pointed out is the hand on a clock.  When your "head" is hidden, the white gap in the tree points to about 10 o'clock.  When your "head" pops up, the white gap in the tree points more towards 11 0'clock.  Your "head" and the white opening in the tree bounce in perfect unison, every single time, throughout your gif as well as Duncan's video.


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