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 February 04, 2012, 06:36:54 AM
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Can I get a "show of hands" of those who believe that the wallet found at the Tippit scene was an Oswald wallet? I believe that the wallet belonged to Tippit. Who here believes that the wallet was an Oswald wallet, either left by Oswald himself or left behind by others in an attempt to frame Oswald?
I have seen certain CT's on this forum (David Josephs, Miles Scull) either question the owner of the wallet (or outright claim that it was an Oswald wallet left behind in an attempt to frame the patsy).
I believe that the wallet simply belonged to Tippit. Who disagrees with me?
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February 05, 2012, 01:31:55 AM
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Why would Barrett and the DPD spend more than 5 seconds looking at the wallet if it was Tippit's?
Joe, are you of the opinion then that the wallet was not Tippit's and that it contained identification in the name of one or both of "Oswald" and "Hidell"? By the way, Barret didn't look at the wallet.
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February 05, 2012, 01:34:15 AM
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Maybe the multiple wallet trick fools the fools we shall see?
Ian, what is your opinion, then? Was it Tippit's wallet? Or, did the wallet contain identification in the name of Oswald and/or Hidell?
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February 05, 2012, 05:56:35 PM
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I think you mean FBI agent Robert Barrett (as opposed to "Barnett"). Barrett is probably misremembering the events surrounding the wallet and when it was exactly that he heard the names "Oswald" and "Hidell". I don't believe Hosty "cooked up" the story to sell a book, but I do believe that Hosty took the misremembering of events by Barrett and formed a complete hypothesis based on Barrett's faulty memory. Hosty was told there would be no more investigation of Oswald. One would think other agents would have knowledge in the same capacity.
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February 09, 2012, 01:42:10 AM
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Bill
This subject has interested me in the past, and I have spent some time studying the wallet. I had a computer crush a few months ago and lost all my notes, so I'm going to try and say this all on memory.
The wallet in the picture could very well be Tippit's, but his wallet was checked into the Dallas police with the rest of the belongings. There is proof of that in their archives.
What is interesting is detective Westbrook seemed to know who Oswald was inside of the theatre. I do not believe they looked at the wallet Oswald had on him in the theatre until they got him into the car, they had trouble getting it out of his back pocket and he would not tell them his name. I also remember Westbrook and Hill were both at the Tippit murder scene and Oswald's arrest at the theatre.
This brings up the question people ask all the time, why did Oswald not pay to get into the theatre. If that was his wallet at the Tippit scene, and it held his money, the answer is simple he had no money, and had to duck into the theatre without paying.
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February 09, 2012, 03:00:49 AM
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The police found a wallet on Oswald when they took him into custody. Yet a wallet was found where Tippit was killed. Some say that the wallet belong to him and others say it belong to Oswald. If it belong to Oswald why would he have two wallets on him?
If was taken in by the police with two wallets that would make him look more suspicious. Why does this person have two wallets.
Ok how many people here carry to wallets?
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February 09, 2012, 03:53:29 AM
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It comes down to when the news footage of the wallet was filmed.
Sense we know Tippits wallet was checked into police custody the same time as the rest of his personal effects, if the film was taken after Tippits personal effects left the scene it was not his wallet.
If the film was taken after Westbrook and Hill left the scene to go the theater it was not Oswald's.
That could lead us to believe the wallet was from a third person at the scene.
Any ideas who that could be?????
I think I know the answer.
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February 09, 2012, 04:32:13 AM
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It comes down to when the news footage of the wallet was filmed.
Sense we know Tippits wallet was checked into police custody the same time as the rest of his personal effects, if the film was taken after Tippits personal effects left the scene it was not his wallet.
If the film was taken after Westbrook and Hill left the scene to go the theater it was not Oswald's.
That could lead us to believe the wallet was from a third person at the scene.
Any ideas who that could be?????
I think I know the answer.
Bill, Tippit's service revolver was also listed among his personal effects, just like the wallet was. But, we know for a fact that Tippit's service revolver was left behind at the scene (just like the wallet was). Also, Ron Reiland was the WFAA cameraman who filmed the scene. The policemen at the scene told him that it was Tippit's wallet. Reiland reported on the air an hour later that the officers were looking at Tippets’ wallet.
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February 09, 2012, 04:53:07 AM
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Why is it so important that the wallet is Tippit's?
I have come to believe the wallet belongs to someone else.
This is what I believe happened.
If I remember right.....right after the shooting one of the bystanders picked up Tippet's gun and went after Oswald. What we are seeing is when the guy returns with gun in hand the police want to see his ID. That is when the film footage was taken.
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February 09, 2012, 05:04:40 AM
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Bill
Why is it so important that the wallet is Tippit's?
I have come to believe the wallet belongs to someone else.
This is what I believe happened.
If I remember right.....right after the shooting one of the bystanders picked up Tippet's gun and went after Oswald. What we are seeing is when the guy returns with gun in hand the police want to see his ID. That is when the film footage was taken.
There's nothing wrong with that theory, except it would discount what Reiland said, that the officers at the scene told him it was Tippit's wallet.
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February 10, 2012, 03:09:10 AM
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There's nothing wrong with that theory, except it would discount what Reiland said, that the officers at the scene told him it was Tippit's wallet.
Bill You have been doing some research, we talked about this before, and you have never brought up Reiland till now. You discount witnesses all the time, if they have a CT point of view. 
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February 10, 2012, 03:57:29 AM
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