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 February 03, 2012, 06:19:30 PM
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I never noticed anyone mention the possibility of a shooter under the bypass where the sidewalk goes under the bypass. Obviously the contrast would have made the walkway dark. From the films, it seems a person could get off a shot from that location. Has anyone noticed if there is any places to enter and exit the covered sidewalk area within the area itself. I mean is there a manhole or double top or some place for someone to hide or escape. I know directly to the left of onlookers at this walkway is a hill going under the tracks. Are there tunnels or passageways leading under the tracks from there.
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February 03, 2012, 08:26:08 PM
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After looking at google street view, I could not determine if there are any exit areas under the covered sidewalk. However there are plenty of hiding places on the ceiling above the sidewalk. It is a mesh of iron recesses and such. I can see first hand when I go in March about the other.
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February 04, 2012, 01:52:27 AM
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Naaw, hold up just a second, ok?
First of all, there were people on the other side of the underpass, waiting for the President to come by. None of them saw this assassin? And, the lead car, wth 4 cops/ss agents, the lead motorcycles....and then there is James Tague. None of these people noticed the assassin? Or the people on top of the overpass, none said a shot came from below them.
Interesting idea, until you start looking at the whole picture....
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February 04, 2012, 03:24:35 AM
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Naaw, hold up just a second, ok?
First of all, there were people on the other side of the underpass, waiting for the President to come by. None of them saw this assassin? And, the lead car, wth 4 cops/ss agents, the lead motorcycles....and then there is James Tague. None of these people noticed the assassin? Or the people on top of the overpass, none said a shot came from below them.
Interesting idea, until you start looking at the whole picture....
So what if they did? You would just call them kooks, as you did with Ed Hoffman. Please diagram where you think this proposed shooter was.
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February 04, 2012, 03:49:30 AM
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You will need stealth technology to do that. I don't think anyone could be hidden there unless he was hanging under the bridge. In witch case, how long would the dude have to wait before he can jump down?
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February 04, 2012, 04:08:26 AM
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Naaw, hold up just a second, ok?
First of all, there were people on the other side of the underpass, waiting for the President to come by. None of them saw this assassin? And, the lead car, wth 4 cops/ss agents, the lead motorcycles....and then there is James Tague. None of these people noticed the assassin? Or the people on top of the overpass, none said a shot came from below them.
Interesting idea, until you start looking at the whole picture....
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February 04, 2012, 04:54:24 AM
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It does not seem that area under the covered sidewalk is any nearer to people than the knoll or picket fence. Also remember silencers could have been employed. If you look at the walkway on google street view you can see from both sides the area is very darkened. Even people on the opposite side of where Kennedy was shot could only see darkness. In fact, the film shows people still waving as the limo races under the pass. They could see nothing until the limo got right up on them.
I still wonder if there were any outlets within the walkway. I am going again in March and will look. I think a person would hide as long as needed to shake the law.
I have no reason to believe a shot came from the covered sidewalk. Just wondered why it was not discussed. Maybe there were people right next to that area making it impossible to shot without detection but I would think the same holds for the knoll and picket fence
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February 04, 2012, 05:14:10 AM
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Naaw, hold up just a second, ok?
First of all, there were people on the other side of the underpass, waiting for the President to come by. None of them saw this assassin? And, the lead car, wth 4 cops/ss agents, the lead motorcycles....and then there is James Tague. None of these people noticed the assassin? Or the people on top of the overpass, none said a shot came from below them.
Interesting idea, until you start looking at the whole picture....
Interesting idea Yes it is. And from time to time over the years the same thought has crossed my mind many times as Russell has suggested. But, having never been to the plaza before, I have no idea of the "makeup" of the under structure beneath the triple underpass. I've always wondered if it could have harbored a concealed nook or cranny with room enough for a shooter to be lying in a prone position looking towards the oncoming motorcade on Elm.
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February 04, 2012, 05:41:03 AM
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thanks. i have a day off next Friday. I think I will go take a look instead of waiting to March. It is only 75 miles from me.
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February 04, 2012, 06:30:35 AM
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I never noticed anyone mention the possibility of a shooter under the bypass where the sidewalk goes under the bypass. Obviously the contrast would have made the walkway dark. From the films, it seems a person could get off a shot from that location. Has anyone noticed if there is any places to enter and exit the covered sidewalk area within the area itself. I mean is there a manhole or double top or some place for someone to hide or escape. I know directly to the left of onlookers at this walkway is a hill going under the tracks. Are there tunnels or passageways leading under the tracks from there.
The McIntire photo shows that area from the other side of the overpass and there is nothing there. Someone did have a theory about some type of utility room near Tague's position under the overpass. Such angles are not practical because of the windshield. But people have theorized about it before. As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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February 04, 2012, 02:51:22 PM
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thanks. i have a day off next Friday. I think I will go take a look instead of waiting to March. It is only 75 miles from me.
If you go, Russell, how about taking photos of the underside of the underpass (understand ?  ), pavements , the walls of the underpass, and maybe of the storm drains in that area, and put them on the site. Thanks.
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