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I'll let you speculate for a while, and I'll post the answer tomorrow.
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LN; So how did it happen then ?
CT; I don't know, I only know that it didn't happen the way the evidence says.
LN; We should not use evidence in this case ?
CT; Correct.
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February 02, 2012, 03:51:26 AM
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I'll let you speculate for a while, and I'll post the answer tomorrow.
No fair!
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February 02, 2012, 04:40:41 AM
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Where was Oswald headed? I'll be interested to hear what you think. I don't think anyone alive knows the answer. And there is a better than fifty-fifty chance that Oswald did not know the answer either.
If he was headed anywhere, I think he was at his destination - Tippitt. And when that soured, everything broke down. Hard to believe, though, that he'd be wandering in the direction that he was through Oak Cliff if he wasn't headed somewhere. He could have been moving along much busier streets for sure where he would have blended in easier.
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February 02, 2012, 10:47:35 PM
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I'll let you speculate for a while, and I'll post the answer tomorrow.
Out with it!!!!!
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February 02, 2012, 11:59:10 PM
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Out with it!!!!!
Let's wait a little bit.
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February 03, 2012, 02:55:24 AM
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OK, let's do it this way. Instead of just blurting out the answer, let's take a little closer look at it.
In figuring out where he was headed we need to analyze a few decisions that he made that are very simple but very significant.
Let's start with what is known or easily assumed to be true.
1.) He just killed a President and is surprised that he got out of the building without being arrested.
2.) He has no plan of escape because he didn't plan on escaping.
3.) He has nothing significant on his person except a few bucks and a wallet.
a.) When he leaves the boarding house , he walks south on N.Beckley , why would he do that ? Say instead of heading North ?
b.) Why didn't he have the cab wait for him and have the cab take him to his next destination, or close to it ? So why do all that walking out in the open when the cab would provide you all the cover you needed to get to that next destination ?
c.) He walks east on 10th , why would he do that ? Why choose what is probably a near empty street to walk down and not a busier one where he may go unnoticed ?
If you answer these three questions you will be real close to what can be the only answer.
Let me know what you come up with,
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February 03, 2012, 03:34:42 AM
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OK, let's do it this way. Instead of just blurting out the answer, let's take a little closer look at it.
In figuring out where he was headed we need to analyze a few decisions that he made that are very simple but very significant.
Let's start with what is known or easily assumed to be true.
1.) He just killed a President and is surprised that he got out of the building without being arrested.
2.) He has no plan of escape because he didn't plan on escaping.
3.) He has nothing significant on his person except a few bucks and a wallet.
a.) When he leaves the boarding house , he walks south on N.Beckley , why would he do that ? Say instead of heading North ?
b.) Why didn't he have the cab wait for him and have the cab take him to his next destination, or close to it ? So why do all that walking out in the open when the cab would provide you all the cover you needed to get to that next destination ?
c.) He walks east on 10th , why would he do that ? Why choose what is probably a near empty street to walk down and not a busier one where he may go unnoticed ?
If you answer these three questions you will be real close to what can be the only answer.
Let me know what you come up with,
While I agree with #1 and #3 on your first points, I can't agree with #2. For a guy with zero expectation to get out, he certainly did well then to get down 5 flights of stairs, then travel 7 blocks through the chaos to get to the Greyhound station AND hail a cab in under 15 minutes total. But let's dive into your questions. (a) from his boarding house, south is the logical direction. Away from the city. It's like the epicentre of the earthquake - the farther you are away from it, the less you feel the effect. Having stopped at the boarding house, his first logical destination, he kept going in the same direction away from the crime scene. (b) it's also logical to get out of the cab to avoid capture. As time progressed, police reports would fan out to anyone in transportation - including cab drivers - to be on the lookout for a person fitting Oswald's description. (c) this is the question that's always troubled me, because it simply doesn't make sense that he would go along 10th, in the direction he did, without purpose. IMHO...the only logical answer is he was headed for a rendezvous with someone. My opinion has been that it was actually with Tippitt, and not to suggest Tippitt was in on any conspiracy. I think he was asked for a favor, to pick up a guy in Oak Cliff and take him to the airport. And when Tippitt realized WHO he was picking up, he got out of the car. And with his ride gone, that's why Oswald was much more out of control after that.
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February 03, 2012, 04:15:05 AM
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While I agree with #1 and #3 on your first points, I can't agree with #2. For a guy with zero expectation to get out, he certainly did well then to get down 5 flights of stairs, then travel 7 blocks through the chaos to get to the Greyhound station AND hail a cab in under 15 minutes total. But let's dive into your questions.
(a) from his boarding house, south is the logical direction. Away from the city. It's like the epicentre of the earthquake - the farther you are away from it, the less you feel the effect. Having stopped at the boarding house, his first logical destination, he kept going in the same direction away from the crime scene.
(b) it's also logical to get out of the cab to avoid capture. As time progressed, police reports would fan out to anyone in transportation - including cab drivers - to be on the lookout for a person fitting Oswald's description.
(c) this is the question that's always troubled me, because it simply doesn't make sense that he would go along 10th, in the direction he did, without purpose. IMHO...the only logical answer is he was headed for a rendezvous with someone. My opinion has been that it was actually with Tippitt, and not to suggest Tippitt was in on any conspiracy. I think he was asked for a favor, to pick up a guy in Oak Cliff and take him to the airport. And when Tippitt realized WHO he was picking up, he got out of the car. And with his ride gone, that's why Oswald was much more out of control after that.
a.) Away from the city but to where and when and did he want to do something before he left ? b.) I would say that if you have a gun and you hear the radio the same time that the cabby does, that you will be able to stop the cabby from calling in and saying that he has you in his cab. c.) I would say that he wasn't going to meet Tippit or he would have shot him before he got out of the car. he didn't kill Tippit until Tippit became a problem. Killing a cop in the middle of a street is basically suicide so I don't think it was his plan to kill a cop. At the time of the meeting I think his focus was on something other than killing a cop. These are just my opinions.
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February 03, 2012, 04:25:16 AM
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a.) Away from the city but to where and when and did he want to do something before he left ?
b.) I would say that if you have a gun and you hear the radio the same time that the cabby does, that you will be able to stop the cabby from calling in and saying that he has you in his cab.
c.) I would say that he wasn't going to meet Tippit or he would have shot him before he got out of the car. he didn't kill Tippit until Tippit became a problem. Killing a cop in the middle of a street is basically suicide so I don't think it was his plan to kill a cop. At the time of the meeting I think his focus was on something other than killing a cop.
These are just my opinions.
The plot thickens :) a) The one that does make the most sense is that he was headed for RedBird airport. Although - the fact he was hailed a cab at the Greyhound bus station indicates he may have had a plan to catch a bus that had just left - remember, the motorcade was a bit behind schedule. One contention has been that Jack Ruby`s apartment was in the general direction he was walking when Tippitt confronted him - but that would lead us back to a big ol` shady conspiracy. b) Although you`ve got a gun, do you want to draw even a small bit of attention to yourself..I mean, the second you get out of the cab, the cabbie`s gonna call it in. If you just fit a description - maybe he won`t. c) I don`t think Oswald wanted to kill a cop either. I think he wanted to get away. I still like the story that Tippitt was there to pick him up. Keep in mind the phone call Tippitt made at Top Ten Records...
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February 03, 2012, 04:33:48 AM
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Yes Tippit rushes to make a phone call, when any type of dealings he may or may not have had that day would not have needed a phone call to tell the other party why he would be busy-not make it- etc., anyone who may have been waiting on any policeman that day would know why a cop could not keep an appointment that day, there was no explanation needed. So what was the phone call all about ?
Why does he rush to do all that and yet drives down East 10th real slow after the call ? Doesn't make any sense at all.
He sat by the gas station, then took off in a hurry, then made a phone call in a hurry, then drove slowly up to Oswald, I'm wondering why that would be ?
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February 03, 2012, 04:36:56 AM
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Yes Tippit rushes to make a phone call, when any type of dealings he may or may not have had that day would not have needed a phone call to tell the other party why he would be busy-not make it- etc., anyone who may have been waiting on any policeman that day would know why a cop could not keep an appointment that day, there was no explanation needed. So what was the phone call all about ?
Why does he rush to do all that and yet drives down East 10th real slow after the call ? Doesn't make any sense at all.
He sat by the gas station, then took off in a hurry, then made a phone call in a hurry, then drove slowly up to Oswald, I'm wondering why that would be ?
Good question. Perhaps...he was meeting someone...someone who needed a lift somewhere....and suddenly, this guy walking along 10th St looks kinda like the guy he`s supposed to be picking up...
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