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 January 25, 2012, 06:21:25 PM
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Bill said this to me:
"Then what are you waiting on? Why the delay? Quote the Warren Commission's evidence that supports a conspiracy. But, so as to not ruin yet another thread, perhaps you should begin a new thread. Okay?" -- Bill Brown
So I will hold him to this statement and request.
Request #1:
Cite the evidence from the 26 volumes that shows us LHO ordered the alleged murder weapon, CE-139 (40" Carcano with C2766 etched on it), from Klein's Sporting Goods as the WC claimed and you support!
FAILURE to do so will show us a conspiracy occurred the ONLY explanation that could work IF he did NOT order the alleged murder weapon as claimed is that someone else gave/loaned it to him!
Well?
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January 25, 2012, 09:17:19 PM
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A negative does not prove a conspiracy. This is typical Caprio silliness. Big surprise. I asked you to cite evidence that proves that there was a conspiracy. What do you do instead? You ask me for evidence.  My request was real simple, Rob. You run around here asking others for evidence. I am asking you to cite evidence, whatever it is that you have, that proves there was a conspiracy. Why can't you perform this very simple request? I should have known better. But anyway, if you really want evidence that shows Oswald ordered the rifle that was found up on the sixth floor, have a look at this: 
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January 25, 2012, 09:32:05 PM
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Bill How does this prove that Oswald ordered the rifle?
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January 25, 2012, 09:42:19 PM
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Bill How does this prove that Oswald ordered the rifle?
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January 25, 2012, 10:22:34 PM
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But anyway, if you really want evidence that shows Oswald ordered the rifle that was found up on the sixth floor, have a look at this:
Oh yes good choice Bill, the BYF... The photographs were found at 2515 West Fifth Street in Irving, Texas, the home of the Paines. On two searches on the day of the assassination of this address, the Dallas police did not locate the photographs. However, another search was made the following day and it was this third search in which the Dallas police say they found the photos. But the two photos were never listed on inventory sheets of Oswald's possessions. Neither was the black shirt and the black pants that Oswald had on in the photographs ever located. Officially, two photographs but only one negative were found. Yet, Dallas police Gus Rose says that there were also two negatives. Until 1967, these photos were the only ones known to be of the backyard pose.In 1976 the Senate Intelligence Committee located a third photograph of Oswald with the backyard pose that was slightly different. The photo was found among the belongings of the widow of Dallas police officer Roscoe White. In 1967 after he returned from Haiti, George DeMorenschild found a fourth photo of the backyard photograph that was still a slightly different pose among his personal belongings that he had in storage. On the back of this photograph is written: HUNTER OF FASCISTS, HA HA HA The inscription was first written in pencil and then gone over in ink. Handwriting experts have revealed that the writing was not the handwriting of Oswald, his wife, DeMorenschild or his wife. Same story as the missing shell Bill .....?
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January 25, 2012, 11:10:04 PM
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Oh yes good choice Bill, the BYF...
The photographs were found at 2515 West Fifth Street in Irving, Texas, the home of the Paines. On two searches on the day of the assassination of this address, the Dallas police did not locate the photographs. However, another search was made the following day and it was this third search in which the Dallas police say they found the photos. But the two photos were never listed on inventory sheets of Oswald's possessions. Neither was the black shirt and the black pants that Oswald had on in the photographs ever located. Officially, two photographs but only one negative were found. Yet, Dallas police Gus Rose says that there were also two negatives. Until 1967, these photos were the only ones known to be of the backyard pose.
In 1976 the Senate Intelligence Committee located a third photograph of Oswald with the backyard pose that was slightly different. The photo was found among the belongings of the widow of Dallas police officer Roscoe White.
In 1967 after he returned from Haiti, George DeMorenschild found a fourth photo of the backyard photograph that was still a slightly different pose among his personal belongings that he had in storage. On the back of this photograph is written:
HUNTER OF FASCISTS, HA HA HA
The inscription was first written in pencil and then gone over in ink. Handwriting experts have revealed that the writing was not the handwriting of Oswald, his wife, DeMorenschild or his wife.
Same story as the missing shell Bill .....?
Paul Finally you reply with some research and not your typical smartarse comments. Unfortunately for you the authenticity of these photo's can be proved in any number of ways. 1) The photo's were taken from random positions and when analysed as pairs stereoscopically, we can confirm that the background has been photographed from different angles 3 times, and Oswald fits into each photo.  2)Oswald was also photographed from 3 angles.  3)The backgrounds are all different.  4)1n 1967 they recreated the Backyard photo at the same time of year and the shadows are a perfect match  5)The photo's were exposed in Oswald's camera and have film grain with no deviation to indicate any alteration  JohnM
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January 25, 2012, 11:11:47 PM
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That phrase at the beginning of "The X-Files"...
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And we haven't even mentioned Roger Craig yet, whose passionate stand on his story would make ANY rifle evidence questionable....
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January 25, 2012, 11:24:35 PM
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And we haven't even mentioned Roger Craig yet, whose passionate stand on his story would make ANY rifle evidence questionable....
If one were to believe that lia....I mean, Roger Craig.
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January 25, 2012, 11:36:05 PM
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Rob-
We had a 22 page + discussion on Oswald's PO Box and you failed to cite any post office regulation that would have prohibited the delivery of the rifle. The postal inspector in Dallas confirmed it would have been delivered even if Hidell's name wasn't on the authorization (and we don't know that it wasn't listed). That trumps the opinion of an Internet krank 50 years later. If this is what you mean when you repeat over and over again that the WC proves a conspiracy, it's a very anemic argument. And that doesn't even get into what you believe happened to the Klein's rifle if it wasn't delivered or the rifle Oswald owned if it's not the one found on the 6th floor. So that's two unaccounted for rifles in your theory. When you find those get back to us.
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January 25, 2012, 11:56:42 PM
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That phrase at the beginning of "The X-Files"...
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The pictures are a classic case of CT misdirection anyway. What these pictures prove is that Oswald held a rifle that matched to the rifle alleged to be used in the assassination. Unknown, ultimately, how long before the assassination they were taken. Rather than talking about that fact, CTs instead attack the validity of the picture itself; when really, if you want to prove a conspiracy, you'd skim over this altogether.
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