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I am pretty sure I've asked the LN's the same thing. I myself have changed my mind about the shots being very possible from the 6th floor and even with the Carcano and even for Oswald if it were him. I also believe that Z313 may not have been a frontal shot. I also now believe the Zapruder and the BY photos are not faked. I also very reluctantly admit that Oswald did in fact give a clenched fist salute while handcuffed. Something I was very adamant he didn't do. But since I recently saw a video of the infamous photo, I am now convinced it was a very deliberate clenched fist salute. I am not on the cusp of becoming a LN. There are still too many discrepancies in the official story that have not been clarified to my satisfaction. Trying to make sense of it all isn't easy I tell ya!  FYI, I have always said that the autopsy photos and X-rays are genuine and the BY photos are genuine as well as all the DP photos. And I am the guy who proved that the Zapruder film is authentic. All of that leads me to conclude that the head shot came from the grassy knoll. And the acoustical evidence proves that exactly three shots came from the sniper's nest.
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February 05, 2012, 01:46:11 PM
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And I am the guy who proved that the Zapruder film is authentic.
Oh you mean that bogus story about ghost images on your site .... 
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February 06, 2012, 03:03:50 AM
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FYI, I have always said that the autopsy photos and X-rays are genuine and the BY photos are genuine as well as all the DP photos. And I am the guy who proved that the Zapruder film is authentic.
All of that leads me to conclude that the head shot came from the grassy knoll. And the acoustical evidence proves that exactly three shots came from the sniper's nest.
head shot from the grassy knoll? evidence? (besides the, uh, dictabelt evidence?)
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February 06, 2012, 03:59:50 AM
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I have to say, for me, practically everything has changed. I used to feel that alot of the evidence with holes in it could easily point to conspiracy. I now feel that it doesn't point to anything in particular. You need to prove conspiracy before the mountain of stuff that seemingly hangs in the air over this case can be effectively linked to anything that may involve conspiracy.
There are real problems with the official version, most notably the Parkland witnesses and the SBT, to name 2 or 3. Sort them out, and the LN version is pretty much rock solid as far as I'm concerned. The problem is, I don't believe there will ever be any solutions offered up that make solid sense to me with regards to these 2 or 3 problems with the official version.
Cheers.
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February 06, 2012, 09:50:21 AM
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CIA would never be involved with any kind of coverup if they had been using assassins around the world. There really was no spy vs spy in the Cold War. In fact, there really was no Cold War, and worries about spread of Communist infiltration. Its all just part of your CT misinformation. CIA is here to help. That why it was created with immunity from prosecution.
Osama Bin Laden was never a CIA contact, and Al Quaida was never the name CIA gave the group for stinger missiles to be delivered to Taliban to fight the Russians. Mujahadeen were never photographed meeting with Reagan, and where never, ever compared to our forefathers fighting the Revolutionary War of Independence. ITS ALL A LIE! Its those leftwing liberals who want Communism and Socialism. Its that Oswald, leftwing crazy, who removed JFK, because... uh... because.. uh .. HE IS A COMMUNIST.. yea thats it ,HE IS A COMMUNIST, and he lived in USSR so that proves he is a traitor.
CIA knew nothing at all about the Bay of Pigs operation, and would have informed JFK if they did.
CIA had no knowledge of Iran/Contra, and would have informed Congress if they did.
CIA was not conducting any covert operations in Vietnam, or for that matter anywhere else in the world. They are like the Peace Corps. Just trying to help other leaders around the world improve their country. And occassionally helping a leader be "elected".
CIA has never detained, interrogated, and tortured people in prison, denied them legal council. ITs ALL a LIE.. its those leftwing liberals who spread disinformation. It was enhanced interrogation, thats all, nothing more. And that soldier who released that information has been taken care of, because he is a TRAITOR. Trust the CIA, because we are here to help.
And believe the WC report. Trust us, its for your own welfare to believe in the truth. And CIA always tells you the truth.
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February 07, 2012, 02:57:15 AM
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head shot from the grassy knoll?
evidence? (besides the, uh, dictabelt evidence?)
Bullet hole in the forehead. Dozens of dustlike fragments in the brain incompatible with FMJ ammunition. The path of the fragments is incompatible with either the WC's EOP entry or the HSCA's cowlick entry. As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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February 07, 2012, 04:40:35 AM
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Bullet hole in the forehead. Dozens of dustlike fragments in the brain incompatible with FMJ ammunition. The path of the fragments is incompatible with either the WC's EOP entry or the HSCA's cowlick entry.As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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February 07, 2012, 06:55:24 AM
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I have to say, for me, practically everything has changed. I used to feel that alot of the evidence with holes in it could easily point to conspiracy. I now feel that it doesn't point to anything in particular. You need to prove conspiracy before the mountain of stuff that seemingly hangs in the air over this case can be effectively linked to anything that may involve conspiracy.
There are real problems with the official version, most notably the Parkland witnesses and the SBT, to name 2 or 3. Sort them out, and the LN version is pretty much rock solid as far as I'm concerned. The problem is, I don't believe there will ever be any solutions offered up that make solid sense to me with regards to these 2 or 3 problems with the official version.
Cheers.
Sort them out??? I'm curious to know how you go about "sorting out" 40 some odd witnesses saying JFK had a big flipping hole in the back of his head.
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