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 January 20, 2012, 08:36:53 PM
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Bill claims that if the weapon was an auto, the killer would have had to pick up the shells at some point...
How is it that we know the killer(s) didn't do that?
I ask because the killer also went around to Tippit laying on the ground and shot him in the head... at quite an interesting angle.... yet the witnesses say no such thing....
Aren't Markham and Benavidas and SCoggins the BEST of the Tippit witnesses? Yet not one of them sees this final shot? Mr. BENAVIDES - Then I heard the other two shots (DJ: so we have the first TWO SHOTS and these OTHER TWO SHOTS) and I looked up and the Policeman was in, he seemed like he kind of stumbled and fell. Mr. BELIN - Did you see the Policeman as he fell? Mr. BENAVIDES - Yes, sir. Mr. BELIN - What else did you see? Mr. BENAVIDES - Then I seen the man turn and walk back to the sidewalk and go on the sidewalk and he walked maybe 5 foot and then kind of stalled. He didn't exactly stop. And he threw one shell and must have took five or six more steps and threw the other shell up, and then he kind of stepped up to a pretty good trot going around the corner. Mr. BELIN. How many shots did you hear? Mr. SCOGGINS. Three or four, in the neighborhood. They was fast. LIKE AN AUTOMATIC WEAPON??Mr. BELIN. They were fast shots? Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes; they were fast. Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do or say or hear? Mr. SCOGGINS. Then I saw the man falling, grab his stomach and fall. Mr. BELIN. Which man did you see fall? Mr. SCOGGINS. The policeman. I was excited when I heard them shots, and I started to get out-- since we went back over there the other day and reenacted that scene, I must have seen him fall as I was getting out of my cab, because I got out of the cab, and in the process of getting out of the cab I seen this guy coming around, so I got out of sight. I started to cross the street, but I seen I didn't have enough time to cross the street before he got down there, so I got back behind the cab, and as he cut across that yard I heard him running into some bushes, and I looked up and seen him going south on Patton and then when I jumped back in my cab I called my dispatcher. Mr. BALL. How many shots did you hear?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Three. Mr. BALL. What did you see the policeman do? Mrs. MARKHAM. He fell to the ground, and his cap went a little ways out on the street. Mr. BALL. What did the man do? Mrs. MARKHAM. The man, he just walked calmly, fooling with his gun. Mr. BALL. Toward what direction did he walk? Mrs. MARKHAM. Come back towards me, turned around, and went back. Mr. BALL. Toward Patton? Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, sir; towards Patton. He didn't run. It just didn't scare him to death. He didn't run. When he saw me he looked at me, stared at me. I put my hands over my face like this, closed my eyes. I gradually opened my fingers like this, and 1 opened my eyes, and when I did he started off in kind of a little trot. Mr. BALL. Which way? Mrs. MARKHAM. Sir? Mr. BALL. Which way? Mrs. MARKHAM. Towards Jefferson, right across that way. As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login Tippit autopsy report  Please provide your PROOF, that Tippit was shot in the head at 10th and Patton... according to this FBI report... Dr. Liguori does not mention a headwound at all
and bullets are removed in the ambulance, at Methodist AND at Parkland???
We KNOW he was shot in the head....
Why didn't anybody see it?
How is it possible that these three BEST WITNESSES do not recall an execution style shot to the head?
Seems very likely then that if they missed what is assumed to have happened BEFORE the killer runs away, they would easily have missed him picking up the shells....  
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January 22, 2012, 03:09:05 PM
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Hello DJ.
I have to ask, why do you think the killer(s) using auto weapons would pick up the shells, only to discard them a few feet away from the crime scene?
Cheers.
Why did "they" threw away a jacket that didn't belong to LHO...... ?
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January 22, 2012, 03:15:24 PM
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Good lord, NOW what are you suggesting?
You are messed. There is clear indication of a head wound.
What proof do you have that he wasn't shot in the head at 10th and Patton? Sounds to me like you are about to get a giant sized butt kicking with the facts. I can predict which CTs will jump on this bandwagon, and those who are smart enough to sit back and have some laughs.
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January 22, 2012, 03:17:42 PM
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Good lord, NOW what are you suggesting?
I can repeat it in dutch if you like ....
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January 22, 2012, 03:23:09 PM
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FYI:
When Jack Tatum heard shots, he stopped his car, looked over his shoulder and saw Tippit lying on the ground. He saw the gunman walk around the rear of the police car, then turn and walk along the driver's side of the car to where Tippit had fallen. The man then shot Tippit in the head. Tatum said "whoever shot Tippit was determined that he shouldn't live and he was determined to finish the job." Smith and Burt jumped in Burt's 1952 blue Ford and sped to the scene of the shooting-less than a block away. Burt got out of the car in time to see Tippit's assailant hurrying south on Patton Street. Smith described Tippit's killer as wearing a white shirt, light brown jacket, dark pants and dark hair.
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January 22, 2012, 04:24:07 PM
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"The jacket" had labels from a laundry service in them.
Marina Oswald said she always washed their clothes by hand.
So it isn't Lee´s jacket.
"your" case against LHO is getting thinner and thinner Geoff.. oh well who cares
p.s. Church out already Geoff or did you skip to radiate us with your intellect.......( where are my sunglasses...)
Since they weren't living together, it is entirely possible that Oswald at some point used a laundry service, how would Marina know? Don't be stupid enough to say "prove it", as the laundry service tag does exactly that. Sometimes the stuff you CTs put forth is almost comical. You have to be led through this by the hand, because some of you don't have any skills in seeing all possible angles, even when you face clear evidence. I am suprised you can tie your shoes without a little help, Paul.
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January 22, 2012, 07:57:49 PM
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"The jacket" had labels from a laundry service in them.
Marina Oswald said she always washed their clothes by hand.
So it isn't Lee´s jacket.
If it isn't Lee's jacket , then why did Marina say that it is? She identified it as being his and she did so under oath.
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January 22, 2012, 08:22:51 PM
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Why did "they" threw away a jacket that didn't belong to LHO...... ?
You mean the one that's in the National Archives now? Cops throw away evidence that they don't think is related to the crime. Like the revolver found in the bag near the TSBD. Or shells planted by conspiracy kooks.
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January 22, 2012, 10:11:20 PM
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You mean the one that's in the National Archives now?
Cops throw away evidence that they don't think is related to the crime.
Like the revolver found in the bag near the TSBD. Or shells planted by conspiracy kooks.
A little off topic, sorry. "Cops throw away evidence that they don't think is related to the crime."Or turn it over to the FBI and Secret Service and let them deep six it or subsitute. What happened to the set of file cabinets found at the Paines? As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginCOUNTY OF DALLAS
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
SUPPLEMENTARY INVESTIGATION REPORT
ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT KENNEDYOfficer Buddy Walthers, Deputy Sheriff, Dallas County Sheriff's Office Nov. 22, 1963 -snip- "Sheriff Decker then ordered me, together with Deputy Harry Weatherford
and Deputy J.L. Oxford to go to a house at 2515 West 5th Street in Irving,
Texas and meet some officers from Capt. Will Fritz' office."-snip- "Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for
Cuba. Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records
that appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathyzers. All
of this evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the
Dallas Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."-snip-
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