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How did "the real assassins" get Oswald to be alone in the lunchroom at the exact time of the shooting ? He could have been outside on the steps watching the motorcade or just near someone at the time of the rifle was fired.
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January 16, 2012, 09:05:09 PM
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very good question and 1 that has always bothered me and even though am a CT i have trouble computing if LHO was so interested in politics etc then why wasnt he out watching the motorcade?, my opinon LHO was the lookout/spotter for assasins!!
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January 16, 2012, 10:46:09 PM
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A more significant question might be why didnt the TSBD shooter fire 1 or 2 shots as the Limo was facing onwards towards the TSBD? With Kenedy sitting slightly higher - it would have been an easier shot to put one or two bullets into his forehead facing towards the depository.
Firing at him after the slow turn and going down hill with trees and traffic lights in the way was in my view, the most difficult of the 2 firing positions
Another good reason perhaps to conclude that the shooter wasnt actually in that 6th floor window anyway? - but some other building?
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January 16, 2012, 10:48:28 PM
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Witnesses have s rifle in the window and workers even heard the shell casings hit the floor.
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January 17, 2012, 02:14:40 AM
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Witnesses have s rifle in the window and workers even heard the shell casings hit the floor.
When I visited the TSBD in '96, the floors seemed pretty thick to me; just like any commercial building. Has anyone ever tried this out; dropping an empty cartridge on one floor of the TSBD and seeing if someone on the floor below can hear it? And what about the plaster dust that got "shook" loose from the ceiling and landed on Williams' (Jarman's?) head? Is someone seriously trying to tell me that shooting a rifle out a window is going to shake plaster off the ceiling of the floor below? I'd like to see that one re-created! What a load of BS!!
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January 17, 2012, 02:37:11 AM
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A more significant question might be why didnt the TSBD shooter fire 1 or 2 shots as the Limo was facing onwards towards the TSBD? With Kenedy sitting slightly higher - it would have been an easier shot to put one or two bullets into his forehead facing towards the depository.
Firing at him after the slow turn and going down hill with trees and traffic lights in the way was in my view, the most difficult of the 2 firing positions
Another good reason perhaps to conclude that the shooter wasnt actually in that 6th floor window anyway? - but some other building?
Regards
Mike
Hi Mike, I have heard this question asked so many times. Ive asked it myself as well. I think if Oswald had fired upon the president as he was coming down Houston he most likely would have exposed his position to anyone who heard the shot(s) and simply looked up. The SS would have opened fire on the sniper window and turned it into Swiss cheese and maybe Oswald as well. Not only that, the building would have been immediately sealed off and any hope of escape would be lost.
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January 17, 2012, 02:39:34 AM
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When I visited the TSBD in '96, the floors seemed pretty thick to me; just like any commercial building.
Has anyone ever tried this out; dropping an empty cartridge on one floor of the TSBD and seeing if someone on the floor below can hear it?
And what about the plaster dust that got "shook" loose from the ceiling and landed on Williams' (Jarman's?) head? Is someone seriously trying to tell me that shooting a rifle out a window is going to shake plaster off the ceiling of the floor below? I'd like to see that one re-created!
What a load of BS!!
Why do you think the floor design is the same in 98' as it was in 1963?
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January 17, 2012, 03:04:10 AM
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Why do you think the floor design is the same in 98' as it was in 1963?
What would have been changed?
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January 17, 2012, 03:11:33 AM
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When I visited the TSBD in '96, the floors seemed pretty thick to me; just like any commercial building.
Has anyone ever tried this out; dropping an empty cartridge on one floor of the TSBD and seeing if someone on the floor below can hear it?
And what about the plaster dust that got "shook" loose from the ceiling and landed on Williams' (Jarman's?) head? Is someone seriously trying to tell me that shooting a rifle out a window is going to shake plaster off the ceiling of the floor below? I'd like to see that one re-created!
What a load of BS!!
Of course, in 1963, they were putting in new flooring to replace the oil stained floors on the sixth floor. As I recall, they still had some gaps in the floor so it was much easier to hear things one floor above than it was after they finished replacing the sixth floor. And yes, plaster can be shaken loose from a partially completed floor, perhaps just from someone walking or shifting their weight.
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January 17, 2012, 03:51:55 AM
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What would have been changed?
Floor panels, foam matting, glue, tile, etc.
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January 17, 2012, 04:01:17 AM
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Floor panels, foam matting, glue, tile, etc.
Joe & Mike Get real. Williams and Jarman only noticed plaster dust falling down immediately after the shot was fired. This was part of the WC dog and pony show and these two were well coached. Repeat question; has anyone ever tested this out? Has anyone checked out what changes have occurred to the floor between the 5th and 6th floor of the TSBD? If it's just a layer of plywood, it should conduct sound still. To read Jarman's and Williams' testimony, you'd think someone was dropping rocks on tin plates above them. And how about the plaster dust? It should be simple to re-create a plaster ceiling.
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January 17, 2012, 04:26:46 AM
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Start your own thread.
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