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Zapruder frame 152 ...what the heck....  (Read 3859 times)

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This is MPI's Zapruder frame 152. Look at the blue coat lady (red circle)



this is the same frame, but from the "Lost Bullet" documentary:



animated GIF, overlay of both:




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This is MPI's Zapruder frame 152. Look at the blue coat lady (red circle)



this is the same frame, but from the "Lost Bullet" documentary:



animated GIF, overlay of both:



Also note The apparent vanishing of part of the sign on the Lamp post.


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Fantastic eye Gerda   hugsxx  gimme5xx  That certainly is odd   


And great catch Duncan  gimme5xx thumbs1xx Another hmmm   


Here is something my eyes caught. Maybe an artifact on the film, but then again maybe not.






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Also, is it just me or does Clint Hill's head seem to turn slightly between the two versions of this frame 152?    walkietalkie2 


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The guy just to the right of the top sprocket hole appears to be waving in one frame, and not the other, but I think this is an artifact on the Lost Bullet version.



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Some of the tree shadow on the right seems to disappear also.


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It is the problem of the software they used to generate inbetween frames, it is more visible on the hughes frames. They have cleaned and erased dust and details.
Some kind deformations can be visible on your video here
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Thierry,

the Z sequence I grabbed that frame from is one of at least 2 different Z-film "versions" National Geographic used in their show. It is true that they used some sort of slomo filter, similar to the tool I used in the video called "Motion Perfect" or "Twixtor" in some of the amateur films and on the Z film - They are easily detectable, Those frames have some kind of wobbling to them
, those tools create inbetween frames by merging together data from two consecutive frames to create a new frame. The frame above was not taken from such a sequence but is a standalone, progressive frame.

Just check it for yourself.


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It is not a slow slowdown,  but they slowed down to pass the 18.3 to 25 images/second. Instead of duplicating an opaque frame, they changed some frames. they also cleaned the film and it was not done by hand but it is an automatic treatment. Look arounf the pink pillbox hat of jackie, you will find little black dots. they come from the original movie and some parts of the grass have been changed.
Remember that it was discuss on the first thread, they did too much changes on the original movie . The jean newman modification is a big sharp digital cut.

In the late 60's the US TV feeds were decayed with some frames every 10 seconds. Between 1970 and 1990, the trick was to duplicate 4 frames and fade them in four places every second to synchronize. The present trick is the use of digital reconstructed frames to pass  from 18.3 to 25 / second.


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Frames 151, 152 and 153 sequence.





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Frames 151, 152 and 153 sequence.



thank you Duncan, it looks weird.

obviously NG used a different print and not MPI version for their show.

the dirt and scratches are different. MPI and probably NG did some enhancement but where and to what degree ? And why would NG clean the area around the Blue Coat Lady, was there any dirt, spots or scratchmarks, and they really cut off a large chunk not just a few pixels... odd

here an example of many where the dirt and scratches differ from the MPI print:
(2 frame GIF)


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Covers up the hole in the windshield.......


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