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it started with the gunshots
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what do you think about kellerman and greer? personnally i think that greer was slow to respond, and i think kellerman could have gave a rats butt less. i know if the other secret service man especially hill, responded to get to the car at the recognition of JFK and gunfire. how come the other agent on the right side of the follow up car didn't move? what the hell was his problem?
and kellerman made sure he was NOT going to move from his seat.....screw that i'm not getting hit..and when at the head shot, both kellerman and greer ducked into the car.
i always wondered if they had immediately sped up as soon as they turned on to elm would any sniper had a shot? i doubt it, the car would have been moving way to fast. why was the lead car and the limo creepin on elm? there was no need to.. that car should have been up to 30 miles per hour by the time they were parallel to zapruder
even watch video footage of deally plaza currently.. notice how fast traffic moves down elm...no sniper is that accurate at those speeds. even if a sniper shoots a target moving 35-40 miles per hour. i can almost assure the projectile would miss the target at those speeds
agents of any protection need to always be alert with the thinking that there is always a sniper or hit team aiming at there mark at all times..you should never get complacent...i think clint hill was the only one alert. i give him a A for effort all the rest get a big fat F...and if i was in charge of the secret service all of them would have been fired and probably launched an investigation. for non reaction to gunfire at the president. a lot of people are going to disagree with me but i believe thats how we survive in combat is thru attention to detail and alertness..the army we have a saying.." STAY ALERT , STAY ALIVE ""
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February 05, 2012, 05:29:43 PM
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Have a study of the recent High Definition enhanced version of the Z film and its fully apparent that Greer turns his head around to see what the comotion was in the rear seats - but he certainly wasnt turning around to shoot at JFK. There is no handgun evident and neither of his hands were facing backwards.
You wouldnt be able to make such allegations and get away with them if Greer and Kellerman were still alive.
They had no motive .
Its time to kick this sickening and rediculous theory into touch after all these years
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February 05, 2012, 05:32:45 PM
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that is correct, although you don't see his feet his whole body move appears as if he had street contact.
And I concur. He is either on pavement or running along the running board. I know which one I think hs feet were on.
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February 25, 2012, 07:58:41 AM
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Greer shooting JFK is certainly very sick, as he was paid to protect him with his life, if necessary. There are 2 undeniable visual facts that you all keep avoiding.
1.GREER IS PASSING AN OBJECT FROM HIS RIGHT HAND TO HIS LEFT HAND FOR A FULL 2 SECONDS, after the limo reappears fromthe Stemmons sign and prior to the headshot. WTF was he doing????
2. Greers left shooting arm crosses his chest just as JFK gets blasted back into his seat, as shown on the Nix film. Greers left arm movements in Nix PROVE THAT THE ZFILM IS ALTERED.
GREER IS THE KILLER, aided by Kellerman.
Thanks, Jay
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February 25, 2012, 11:15:14 AM
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KOOK!
I really get a kick out of the way CT's treat Jay on this board. He has as much proof as any of you, and his theory is just as sane.
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LHO had poor hand-eye coordination and proof of this is seen in the fact he couldn't drive an automobile-- R Caprio
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February 25, 2012, 12:32:42 PM
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I really get a kick out of the way CT's treat Jay on this board. He has as much proof as any of you, and his theory is just as sane.
He is going on the same proof as you are as well. We all are. Sure some have an unusual way of interpreting it. Jay is Jay. Most of the CT's I am sure would disagree with his take on it as do most of you LN's. We are just not as rude about it as you lot seem to be. Everyone is entitled to their opinion as much as everyone is entitled to disagree with it. That is how I tend to treat most CT's on this board. With LN's I have to have a different approach. I can't have a decent conversation with you guys while you're distracted looking at my CT bossom. I am up here Brian! 
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February 26, 2012, 07:51:07 AM
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 No Response to the Visual Fact that Greer is shown transferring an object from his right hand to his left hand with his hands off the wheel when the transfer was made, as shown on the Zfilm for 2 full seconds after the limo reappears from the Stemmons sign and before JFK was executed. A legitimate SS agent trying to save JFKs life would have leadfooted the gas at that point as the bullets were flying....but....GREER TAKES THE HANDGUN AND BLOWS THE PRESIDENTS HEAD APART, crudely altered out in the Ztoon. Nix also shows the traitor Greer in full glory, crossing his chest with his left shooting arm, his hand at approx chin height immediately followed by JFK getting blasted back into the seat, right beside his wife, the sickest murder in our history, POTUS done in by his own men who were supposed to protect him. Cheers, Jay
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February 26, 2012, 12:47:24 PM
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I really get a kick out of the way CT's treat Jay on this board. He has as much proof as any of you, and his theory is just as sane.
You MUST be referring to the WCR .... 
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February 26, 2012, 01:45:40 PM
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I lambaste Vince Palaramara for suggesting that the SS was part of a conspiracy.
You should do that to the US government for not proving him wrong in such an easy open and shut case ....
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February 26, 2012, 05:38:41 PM
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He is going on the same proof as you are as well. We all are. Sure some have an unusual way of interpreting it. Jay is Jay. Most of the CT's I am sure would disagree with his take on it as do most of you LN's. We are just not as rude about it as you lot seem to be. Everyone is entitled to their opinion as much as everyone is entitled to disagree with it. That is how I tend to treat most CT's on this board. With LN's I have to have a different approach. I can't have a decent conversation with you guys while you're distracted looking at my CT bossom. I am up here Brian! So you are saying the LN crowd is more rude then the non LN crowd. I think we would need a outside judge to rule on that. Jay has latched onto a theory that can't be backed up with any proof or common sense. he is in the same boat as probaby 90% of CT's. Yet they laugh at Jay. I have never insulted Jay. I enjoy his posts.
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February 26, 2012, 08:24:45 PM
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He is going on the same proof as you are as well. We all are. Sure some have an unusual way of interpreting it. Jay is Jay. Most of the CT's I am sure would disagree with his take on it as do most of you LN's. We are just not as rude about it as you lot seem to be. Everyone is entitled to their opinion as much as everyone is entitled to disagree with it. That is how I tend to treat most CT's on this board. With LN's I have to have a different approach. I can't have a decent conversation with you guys while you're distracted looking at my CT bossom. I am up here Brian! Making a baseless claim that an honorable person killed the President does not entitle one to be treated with any kind of respect. If Greer were still alive he could sue this kook. It's unfortunate that surviving family members have to be subjected to this kind of slander by cowards like this  .
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