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Its my belief that the case against Oswald is clear-cut, it's also my belief that Oswald's motive was, at least partially, a desire for fame, a desire to get into the history books, to immortalise his name. Oswald has achieved all he ever wanted. His name is right up there with the worlds most well-known "TOP 20 NAMES" everybody, no matter where they come from, which country they live in, knows exactly who he is, knows what his connection to history is. To many he is an innocent "patsy", to many more he is actually a hero. The CT's have made Oswald a winner, ultimately the only real winner of the assassination. I wonder how many other madmen have been inspired by Oswald's fame, how many other madmen have committed murder, political and otherwise, because Oswald had proven to them that if you want world-wide fame all you need to do is buy a gun and kill someone famous.
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January 15, 2012, 04:32:18 PM
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Why didnt he admit it? If he wanted all that fame.
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January 15, 2012, 04:41:48 PM
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Why didnt he admit it? If he wanted all that fame.
He didn't want the electric chair.
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January 15, 2012, 05:10:24 PM
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He didn't want the electric chair.
No. If Lee WAS a LN, then he knew he was going fry because he knew that he had left massive incremination of himself behind on the sixth floor. He knew he was a dead man walking, ... IF ... he WAS a LN.
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January 15, 2012, 05:18:29 PM
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Why didnt he admit it? If he wanted all that fame.
There was no need to admit it yet. Are you saying on Nov 23rd 1963 that he was in the postion of admitting that he killed JFK or slip into obscurity?
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January 15, 2012, 05:42:43 PM
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There was no need to admit it yet. Are you saying on Nov 23rd 1963 that he was in the postion of admitting that he killed JFK or slip into obscurity?
No. Lee was smart. He knew from his treatment at the Texas Theatre that he might be killed any minute as a cop-killer BEFORE assassination charges were brought against him. The only way to be CERTAIN of historical fame was to admit his guilt as soon as possible, if fame was his intent. Funny thing. Lee emphatically denied that he had killed anyone. Now, why did he do that? Maybe he was modest?
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January 15, 2012, 07:10:44 PM
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I agree he did for the fame.
He was a loose cannon someone must have known how dangerous he was.
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January 15, 2012, 10:31:12 PM
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No.
Lee was smart.
He knew from his treatment at the Texas Theatre that he might be killed any minute as a cop-killer BEFORE assassination charges were brought against him.
The only way to be CERTAIN of historical fame was to admit his guilt as soon as possible, if fame was his intent.
Funny thing.
Lee emphatically denied that he had killed anyone.
Now, why did he do that?
Maybe he was modest?
Isn't sophistry glorious?
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January 15, 2012, 10:33:18 PM
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Why didnt he admit it? If he wanted all that fame.
Because he wanted to star in the trial of the century. The trial would have been shown all over the world. Oswald the showman would possibly have even conducted his own defense. What a marvelous chance for Oswald to show off his superior intelligence, his great political knowledge and debating skills, Oswald would have been in his glory. In his twisted mind he may have even believed the general public would start to see things from his point of view, may even start to appreciate what he had done for them. Then there's the possibility, no matter how slight, that Oswald actually may have got off on some legal technicality. Imagine that, everybody on the planet knowing Oswald did it but unable to prove it. What an ultimate buzz. The prospects of the upcoming trial would have made Oswald the happiest man on Earth. I'm glad Ruby took it from him.
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January 15, 2012, 10:35:27 PM
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I agree he did for the fame.
He was a loose cannon someone must have known how dangerous he was.
Jon, It is interesting that James Hosty, the FBI agent in Dallas, who visited Marina Oswald at the Paine's residence twice in the month of November 1963, prior to the assassination, had stated he made those visits to question Marina ... wondering why a russian woman would be staying with the Paines? I guess Hosty did not think of Lee Oswald as dangerous and a possible threat. THIS IS SIMPLY AMAZING when you look back at history. Oswald definitely showed signs of what was to happen three weeks later, BUT ONCE AGAIN we are looking back at history. IF THE DPD, could have done a more professional job in striving to come to the conclusion that Oswald was indeed connected in the attempt on General Edwin Walker's life in April of 1963, then Oswald would have certainly been on their short list of threats when President Kennedy was due in town. **THERE WERE 100 HOMICIDES in Dallas alone from January 1 - November 21, 1963. Maybe the DPD had a lot on their plate anyway ... NOT TO PURSUE the Walker case. HINDSIGHT IS 20/20, is it not? I guess Hosty thought more of Marina being suspicious that Lee in the early part of November 1963.
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January 15, 2012, 10:39:23 PM
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Jon, It is interesting that James Hosty, the FBI agent in Dallas, who visited Marina Oswald at the Paine's residence twice in the month of November 1963, prior to the assassination, had stated he made those visits to question Marina ... wondering why a russian woman would be staying with the Paines?
I guess Hosty did not think of Lee Oswald as dangerous and a possible threat. THIS IS SIMPLY AMAZING when you look back at history. Oswald definitely showed signs of what was to happen three weeks later, BUT ONCE AGAIN we are looking back at history.
IF THE DPD, could have done a more professional job in striving to come to the conclusion that Oswald was indeed connected in the attempt on General Edwin Walker's life in April of 1963, then Oswald would have certainly been on their short list of threats when President Kennedy was due in town. **THERE WERE 100 HOMICIDES in Dallas alone from January 1 - November 21, 1963. Maybe the DPD had a lot on their plate anyway ... NOT TO PURSUE the Walker case. HINDSIGHT IS 20/20, is it not?
I guess Hosty thought more of Marina being suspicious that Lee in the early part of November 1963.
Tell us how the DPD could have figured out it was Oswald that tried to kill Walker? There was no reason to think Oswald was dangerous from what was known before 11/22/1963.
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January 15, 2012, 10:41:49 PM
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He didn't want the electric chair.
Way too obvious and logical John!!! Keep making that sort of statement and you're going to receive a torrent of abuse -- from CTs.
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