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 January 15, 2012, 03:33:06 AM
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Just want to ask the logical LN'ers of this forum.
So the average IQ Oswald who somehow have super sniper scores in Marine training, for some reason missed the 2nd shot by alot. Kills the Potus by himself on the last lucky shot to the head right before limo flees, then runs miles to house pick up gun and runs miles to a theatre to wait for capture.
thats awesome, he doesnt want attention at the time of the killing runs and hides , but then later he wants to be the lone nutter and be famouse so he hides at the movie theatre after he escaped.
ok awesome can someone please explain why this happened?
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January 15, 2012, 06:16:28 AM
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Just want to ask the logical LN'ers of this forum.
So the average IQ Oswald who somehow have super sniper scores in Marine training, for some reason missed the 2nd shot by alot. Kills the Potus by himself on the last lucky shot to the head right before limo flees, then runs miles to house pick up gun and runs miles to a theatre to wait for capture.
thats awesome, he doesnt want attention at the time of the killing runs and hides , but then later he wants to be the lone nutter and be famouse so he hides at the movie theatre after he escaped.
ok awesome can someone please explain why this happened?
Logical LN'er??? Isn't that an oxymoron, like "jumbo shrimp" or "army intelligence"????  
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January 15, 2012, 07:14:27 PM
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Just want to ask the logical LN'ers of this forum.
So the average IQ Oswald who somehow have super sniper scores in Marine training, for some reason missed the 2nd shot by alot. Kills the Potus by himself on the last lucky shot to the head right before limo flees, then runs miles to house pick up gun and runs miles to a theatre to wait for capture. In my view the SBT is a mistake. All three shots were fired by Oswald and, according to those who witnessed it, all three struck either JFK or JBC or both. The SBT is not needed to explain the shots if you follow the witness evidence. The rest of the evidence fits quite well with such a scenario. So, we don't have to assume Oswald missed the limo on any of those shots (most SBTers think it was the first, not the second shot, that missed). thats awesome, he doesnt want attention at the time of the killing runs and hides , but then later he wants to be the lone nutter and be famouse so he hides at the movie theatre after he escaped.
ok awesome can someone please explain why this happened?
Oswald did not want to get caught, although he was prepared to be caught. When he went out to shoot General Walker in March 1963 he left Marina a note providing some instructions in case he did not return for a while. And he was never caught for that crime. In this case, he managed to flee the building, get on a bus and get his pistol from his room. If he had not been stopped by Officer Tippett, perhaps he might have gotten away much farther. Evidence suggests he was trying to get to Mexico and then Cuba. Oswald was a person who acted on his ideas. As a communist sympathizer, he decided he wanted to live the experience so he went to Russia to live - gave up his US citizenship. He decided, for whatever reason, that General Walker should be killed so he attempted to do that - missed by a hair. He decided, for whatever reason, that JFK should be killed. And he attempted to do that too - and succeeded.
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January 16, 2012, 01:05:52 AM
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January 16, 2012, 01:22:20 AM
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In my view the SBT is a mistake. All three shots were fired by Oswald and, according to those who witnessed it, all three struck either JFK or JBC or both. The SBT is not needed to explain the shots if you follow the witness evidence. The rest of the evidence fits quite well with such a scenario. So, we don't have to assume Oswald missed the limo on any of those shots (most SBTers think it was the first, not the second shot, that missed).
Oswald did not want to get caught, although he was prepared to be caught. When he went out to shoot General Walker in March 1963 he left Marina a note providing some instructions in case he did not return for a while. And he was never caught for that crime. In this case, he managed to flee the building, get on a bus and get his pistol from his room. If he had not been stopped by Officer Tippett, perhaps he might have gotten away much farther. Evidence suggests he was trying to get to Mexico and then Cuba.
Oswald was a person who acted on his ideas. As a communist sympathizer, he decided he wanted to live the experience so he went to Russia to live - gave up his US citizenship. He decided, for whatever reason, that General Walker should be killed so he attempted to do that - missed by a hair. He decided, for whatever reason, that JFK should be killed. And he attempted to do that too - and succeeded.
"In my view the SBT is a mistake. All three shots were fired by Oswald and, according to those who witnessed it, all three struck either JFK or JBC or both." You're right about the SBT and wrong about 3 shots 3 hits. As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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SUPPLEMENTARY INVESTIGATION REPORTOfficer Buddy Walthers, Deputy Sheriff, Dallas County Sheriff's Office Nov 22, 1963 -snip- "I immediately went to the triple underpass on Elm street in an effort
to locate possible marks left by stray bullets. While I was looking for
possible marks, some unknown person stated to me that something had hit
his face while he was parked on Main Street, the next lane south from Elm,
as the traffic had been stopped for the parade. Upon examining the curb and
pavement in this vicinity I found where a bullet had splattered on the top
edge of the curb on Main Street which would place the direction of firing,
high and behind the position the President's car was in when he was shot."-snip-
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January 16, 2012, 01:50:35 AM
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Just want to ask the logical LN'ers of this forum.
So the average IQ Oswald who somehow have super sniper scores in Marine training, for some reason missed the 2nd shot by alot. Kills the Potus by himself on the last lucky shot to the head right before limo flees, then runs miles to house pick up gun and runs miles to a theatre to wait for capture.
thats awesome, he doesnt want attention at the time of the killing runs and hides , but then later he wants to be the lone nutter and be famouse so he hides at the movie theatre after he escaped.
ok awesome can someone please explain why this happened?
Two false statements in one sentence. Oswald had an above average intelligence, 118. And he scored just one point above flunking out on the range. We don't know which shot missed. Max Holland and many WC defenders think it was the first shot. If you want to be famous you don't run and hide in a theater. You shout out some slogan like Booth.
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January 16, 2012, 09:31:54 PM
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"In my view the SBT is a mistake. All three shots were fired by Oswald and, according to those who witnessed it, all three struck either JFK or JBC or both." You're right about the SBT and wrong about 3 shots 3 hits. As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
SUPPLEMENTARY INVESTIGATION REPORTOfficer Buddy Walthers, Deputy Sheriff, Dallas County Sheriff's Office Nov 22, 1963 -snip- "I immediately went to the triple underpass on Elm street in an effort
to locate possible marks left by stray bullets. While I was looking for
possible marks, some unknown person stated to me that something had hit
his face while he was parked on Main Street, the next lane south from Elm,
as the traffic had been stopped for the parade. Upon examining the curb and
pavement in this vicinity I found where a bullet had splattered on the top
edge of the curb on Main Street which would place the direction of firing,
high and behind the position the President's car was in when he was shot."-snip- He's wrong about the SBT and 3 shots 3 hits. He's also wrong about the witnesses . However, the hit on the curb would not rule out 3 shots 3 hits, since that wasn't an intact bullet. Rather, it was a fragment from one of the hits. Actually, it was a fragment from the headshot.
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January 17, 2012, 12:12:57 AM
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He's wrong about the SBT and 3 shots 3 hits. He's also wrong about the witnesses . However, the hit on the curb would not rule out 3 shots 3 hits, since that wasn't an intact bullet. Rather, it was a fragment from one of the hits. Actually, it was a fragment from the headshot.
Your proof that it was a fragment? The 1st day witness said a "bullet" splattered on the curb. You could check the mark for metal content if you had a spectrgraphic analysis of it and possibly determine if only a lead part or metal jacket hit. Unfortunately the FBI tossed out 1/16th inch thick spectrograph decades ago to save space.
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January 17, 2012, 02:45:08 AM
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Your proof that it was a fragment? I couldn't prove that anymore than you could prove that it was a bullet. The 1st day witness said a "bullet" splattered on the curb. Who was that? Superman?
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January 17, 2012, 03:28:17 AM
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Two false statements in one sentence. Oswald had an above average intelligence, 118. And he scored just one point above flunking out on the range.
We don't know which shot missed. Max Holland and many WC defenders think it was the first shot.
If you want to be famous you don't run and hide in a theater. You shout out some slogan like Booth.
Booth shouted a brief hammy statement as he made for his horse than he had waiting in the back of the theatre. He didn't stick around. There's the possibility Oswald was intentionally not trying his best on the firing range as he was anti-authoritarian.
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