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 January 12, 2012, 06:56:42 PM
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Hi Everyone. Over the years i have alternated between believing Oswald did it alone/an organised conspiracy was involved. Indeed, there is evidence for either.
Here is a question Ive always considered significant.
On the 22nd, it was a close call as to whether the bubble top should be fitted. If the rain hadnt passed by, the top would have been fitted and the assassination would have failed in Dallas.
In my view, if there was a conspiracy - the planners must have considered this possibility in their strategy. Therefore, my question is - is their credible evidence to prove that plans were at hand to try it again in another town, and if that failed, a third attempt elsewhere later in the month or year?
If such plans were in place to "get him somewhere else" - this would prove to me it really was an orchestrated conspiracy.
Are we aware of any such later plans?
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Mike ONeill
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January 12, 2012, 07:04:32 PM
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Earlier plans Mike..... Dallas was 2nd try ......
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January 12, 2012, 07:28:38 PM
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Hi Everyone. Over the years i have alternated between believing Oswald did it alone/an organised conspiracy was involved. Indeed, there is evidence for either.
Here is a question Ive always considered significant.
On the 22nd, it was a close call as to whether the bubble top should be fitted. If the rain hadnt passed by, the top would have been fitted and the assassination would have failed in Dallas.
In my view, if there was a conspiracy - the planners must have considered this possibility in their strategy. Therefore, my question is - is their credible evidence to prove that plans were at hand to try it again in another town, and if that failed, a third attempt elsewhere later in the month or year?
If such plans were in place to "get him somewhere else" - this would prove to me it really was an orchestrated conspiracy.
Are we aware of any such later plans?
Regards
Mike ONeill
There is NO evidence showing LHO shot anyone on 11/22/63 as the WC couldn't even show he ordered, received and used the alleged murder weapon. This is why it baffles me when people say they go back and forth as there is NOTHING supporting the claims that LHO shot JFK or JDT s how can anyone believe this? ~head scratch~
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January 12, 2012, 07:29:41 PM
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Earlier plans Mike..... Dallas was 2nd try ......
Some say third (or fourth?) as Tampa was supposedly set up for an assassination too! The Patsy was Gilberto Lopez.
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January 12, 2012, 09:24:04 PM
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If the rain had continued, the hit would have taken place at Trade Mart. Probably by a certain someone named Alek James Hidell.
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January 12, 2012, 09:29:25 PM
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If the rain had continued, the hit would have taken place at Trade Mart. Probably by a certain someone named Alek James Hidell.
As I said before, if the bubble top was on the limo and the assassination still took place in Deadley Plaza, it would have been a CINCH tracking the origin of the bullets.
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January 12, 2012, 09:32:08 PM
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Earlier plans Mike..... Dallas was 2nd try ......
At LEAST the third one Paul... Tampa as well as Chicago... DJ and if you read Dick Russell's On the Trail.... you will be exposed to an interest set of circumstances and coincidences... par for the JFK course.. Cheers
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January 12, 2012, 10:58:37 PM
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Hi Everyone. Over the years i have alternated between believing Oswald did it alone/an organised conspiracy was involved. Indeed, there is evidence for either.
Here is a question Ive always considered significant.
On the 22nd, it was a close call as to whether the bubble top should be fitted. If the rain hadnt passed by, the top would have been fitted and the assassination would have failed in Dallas.
In my view, if there was a conspiracy - the planners must have considered this possibility in their strategy. Therefore, my question is - is their credible evidence to prove that plans were at hand to try it again in another town, and if that failed, a third attempt elsewhere later in the month or year?
If such plans were in place to "get him somewhere else" - this would prove to me it really was an orchestrated conspiracy.
Are we aware of any such later plans?
Regards
Mike ONeill
You can't assume that any assassination attempt would fail if the bubbletop was on. It was not bullet proof. And if you have three different firing locations then a couple of them could have practical shots that don't have to go through the bubbletop.
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January 12, 2012, 11:26:46 PM
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You can't assume that any assassination attempt would fail if the bubbletop was on. It was not bullet proof. And if you have three different firing locations then a couple of them could have practical shots that don't have to go through
the bubbletop.
LOL Anthony, think of what you are saying. If the shots do not go through the bubbletop but, rather, through small apertures not screened by the bubbletop, doesn't that also make it easier to trace the origin of the shot? It would definitely rule out the SE corner of the TSBD if there were no holes through the bubbletop, though.
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January 13, 2012, 12:00:41 AM
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Hi Everyone. Over the years i have alternated between believing Oswald did it alone/an organised conspiracy was involved. Indeed, there is evidence for either.
Here is a question Ive always considered significant.
On the 22nd, it was a close call as to whether the bubble top should be fitted. If the rain hadnt passed by, the top would have been fitted and the assassination would have failed in Dallas.
In my view, if there was a conspiracy - the planners must have considered this possibility in their strategy. Therefore, my question is - is their credible evidence to prove that plans were at hand to try it again in another town, and if that failed, a third attempt elsewhere later in the month or year?
If such plans were in place to "get him somewhere else" - this would prove to me it really was an orchestrated conspiracy.
Are we aware of any such later plans?
Regards
Mike ONeill
It did rain in Dallas on Friday morning only to stop by the time the president arrived at Love Field. Anthony Marsh is right that the bubbletop, if needed, was not bullet proof. The attempt could have proceeded even with the bubbletop ... and been successful. We have read about Chicago, Tampa and Miami. As far as future cities, in case Dallas was aborted, I do not know. Kennedy was to return to Washington the next day, meet with the new German chancellor, Ludwig Erhard on November 25 at the White House, and then spend the Thanksgiving holiday at Hyannis Port. Anything later than that, I do not know.
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January 13, 2012, 04:49:36 AM
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LOL Anthony, think of what you are saying. If the shots do not go through the bubbletop but, rather, through small apertures not screened by the bubbletop, doesn't that also make it easier to trace the origin of the shot? It would definitely rule out the SE corner of the TSBD if there were no holes through the bubbletop, though.
It would not prevent an assassination, just make it harder to pin it on Oswald shooting from the sniper's nest. But you have to remember that the CIA had a stable full of disinformation agents ready to explain away anything. When they said the throat wound was an entrance the CIA had its disinformation agents claim that Oswald fired that shot from the sniper's nest when JFK turned to look back at the TSBD. When they only had the head wound and the throat wound without a back wound, they had one team explain that the bullet entered the throat and exited the back of the head. When that angle obviously wouldn't work they changed it to the bullet hitting the back of the head and exiting the throat. As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login When the WC realized that there wasn't enough time for their boy Oswald to shoot Kennedy in the back and then Connally with the next shot they changed their report and invented the Single-Bullet Theory. Let's just say for the sake of your argument that the bubbletop impaired the shots from the sniper's nest. Then the grassy knoll shooter hits JFK in the head and fragments go through the roof. The CIA already had a stooge ready to claim that the shot hit the tree and broke up into 5 pieces which went through the roof and hit JFK in the head. When the autopsy photos are leaked on the Internet and everyone can see the entrance wound on his forehead, they trot out their experts to explain that JFK was born with that hole in his head or it was an old WWII wound from the Pacific.
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