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Gary insists on communicating through the personal message system when he could easily just respond here on the post he has an issue with. Someone started a post about him and ALL I did was ask what made him change his mind (IF he did in fact do so) from a conspiracy and he sent me this in the PM system on 12/27/11: Well Rob, since you never bothered to ask, how in the world would you know if there was a defining moment? Isn't it interesting how so many alleged researchers just make stuff up? Oh well, at least their comments separate the real researchers from the conspiracy buffs. As for me, I've mentioned a significant event many times on many forums. Here's one from 2000: As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginGary Mack I think the *whole point* of my question was to find out the "defining moment" for him IF there was one! Why is he so touchy about this question? What was I "making up" when I only asked a question about what changed his mind (IF he did)? Does this make any sense to anyone else? It sure doesn't to me. What is with the term 'conspiracy buff' by the way? I thought only LNers used that term in a nasty way?  I tried to access the link he gave me for AAJ (a moderated board by John McAdams that I avoid at all costs most of the time), but it did not work, so I am still wondering what changed his mind (IF he did)? Oh well.
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January 04, 2012, 05:30:38 PM
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I got another reply just yesterday! Robb, I copied my 12/27 note to you to several other researchers. You haven't read it, apparently. Here's a link to the entire August 2000 thread at alt.assassination.jfk: As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginI responded to someone named Jerry, and the important part for you is this quote: Jerry: TMWKK was broadcast last night and featured some comments by you about Oswald that are in conflict with the evidence. Gary: Those interviews were done in 1988, before the Roscoe White fiasco in 1990 taught me to be skeptical of claims in conspiracy books. I don't know how much clearer this can be. Gary cc First of all, I don't use TWO "BB'S" in my name! One "b" is fine. Why is he copying in other "researchers" to messages for me? I know Paul May and Bill Brown have mentioned this and they do NOT strike me as "researchers", how about you? I tried the link he gave me again, and again, it did NOT work. Maybe I did something wrong, can someone else point me to the discussion Gary is mentioning? Thanks! As for the rest, what is he talking about? Jerry said the comments he made in regards to LHO were in conflict with the evidence and then he mentions the Roscoe White "fiasco"! How does that change the evidence we were given in 1964? It doesn't, so again we get a NO answer as to why someone had a change of heart it would seem. I am open to listening. Can you show what particular evidence made you change your mind Gary (IF you have and it seems you have from your OWN comments). Thanks!
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January 04, 2012, 05:34:10 PM
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I think you have just very effectively demonstrated why Gary would be leery about replying to people such as yourself.
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January 04, 2012, 05:54:55 PM
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I think you have just very effectively demonstrated why Gary would be leery about replying to people such as yourself.
Gary is afraid to reply to me because? LOL! Good one! He gave me links that did NOT work, why is that my problem? IF Gary is still a CTer like Bill says, why do all the LNers run to his defense so much? Just wondering. I really don't care one way or the other, but I do feel if someone of Gary's stature has changed his mind based on the evidence in this case he has a right to share this with others, but he seems reluctant to do this. I wonder why?
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January 04, 2012, 06:10:21 PM
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I like Gary  Let them be Gary, they can't help it either
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January 04, 2012, 08:28:45 PM
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I like Gary too, but he should be willing to say what changed his mind IF he has.
First off Rob... Gary cleared you to post his replies? I usually ask first and sometimes yes, sometimes no... I've read about the work he did regarding the acoustics and know from my discussions with him that this is the one area he feels there is physical evidence of a conspiracy... Anthony Marsh's work on the dictabelts timelines and existence led me to this info... The problem I have with Gary is that everything is based on the AVAILABLE OFFICIAL EVIDENCE whether its authenticated or not... and when not.. like the existing Autopsy report... he is quick with a justification or rationalization as to why... He is an amazing resource - i.e. the transcript from Montgomery's oral history saying there was a venetian blind in the bag he is holding in the photos and THAT's why it is standing up...  and should not be condemed for NOT wanting to get into shouting and insult laden matches with those here... Finally please remember he is involved with a museum that has immortalized an amazing lie... and cannot admit the supporting evidence was manufactured/altered nor show the process of authentication... case in point CE399... how any intelligent entity can maintain a hold on CE399 being involved in any way shape or form in the assassination is beyond me... but there it is. and as the comedian says... the corner is EXACTLY as it was on Nov 22, 1963 - No Oswald at the window
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January 05, 2012, 03:27:34 AM
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Well, somebody did it.
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PM stands for private message Rob, only an assshole would post someone's PM. This forum would be better off without you on it, just sayin.
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LN; So how did it happen then ?
CT; I don't know, I only know that it didn't happen the way the evidence says.
LN; We should not use evidence in this case ?
CT; Correct.
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January 05, 2012, 05:52:38 AM
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I got another reply just yesterday!
First of all, I don't use TWO "BB'S" in my name! One "b" is fine. Why is he copying in other "researchers" to messages for me? I know Paul May and Bill Brown have mentioned this and they do NOT strike me as "researchers", how about you?
I tried the link he gave me again, and again, it did NOT work. Maybe I did something wrong, can someone else point me to the discussion Gary is mentioning? Thanks!
As for the rest, what is he talking about? Jerry said the comments he made in regards to LHO were in conflict with the evidence and then he mentions the Roscoe White "fiasco"! How does that change the evidence we were given in 1964? It doesn't, so again we get a NO answer as to why someone had a change of heart it would seem.
I am open to listening. Can you show what particular evidence made you change your mind Gary (IF you have and it seems you have from your OWN comments).
Thanks!
Rob, If you are talking about the link in the email you have quoted, it opens right up.
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January 05, 2012, 06:39:43 AM
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Rob,
If you are talking about the link in the email you have quoted, it opens right up.
Yeah I just clicked on it and got it too. I find CT's have difficulties with basic computer functions. Like setting the time, or clicking on hyperlinks.
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