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 December 30, 2011, 06:34:03 PM
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This new video presentation includes the Zapruder segment from 282 to 312 in both extreme slow motion and at real time speed. I really don't see how there can be any doubt that the limo passengers who all reacted within the same 1/6th of a second of one another, were startled then by a loud gunshot. Decide for yourself: <![CDATA[As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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January 28, 2012, 02:15:28 AM
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No Garret, you claim that one can make a frame with the Z camera of a moving object and both the moving object ( small details on the limo ) are sharp as well as the static background ( leafs on the tree etc )
I think Mr Costella has a very good explanation why that is impossible.
You say it easily can be done, so pls show me....
Sorry, you have just demonstrated an inability to think rationally. I can't help you.
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January 28, 2012, 02:29:02 AM
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Bob You are an expert pathologist, because you drove an ambulance.  You are a ballistics expert, because you went "a huntin". Now you say that "we" made up a new name for me(Cheap Trick), yet you are the only one boring enough to use it? Honestly if this is your best attempt at being a comedian, then don't give up that welfare cheque just yet!  At least Miles, David, Rob, Colin, Gary etc etc make worthwhile contributions, but Bob Prudhomme and Paul Zwertbroek are our very own version of Laurel and Hardy. HaHaHaHa Here's Bob Prudhomme teaching Paul Zwertbroek the finer points of how to use Google and appear like you know something!  JohnM BTW Cheap Trick were one of my favourite 70's bands and I'm happy for you to continue, your attack.  <![CDATA[As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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January 28, 2012, 06:38:36 AM
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No, not really. Nothing like what the witnesses, including four motorcycle cops directly behind the limo, stated.
You need to watch the Zapruder film again. This time, pay attention.
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January 28, 2012, 06:44:42 AM
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Bob You are an expert pathologist, because you drove an ambulance. You are a ballistics expert, because you went "a huntin". Now you say that "we" made up a new name for me(Cheap Trick), yet you are the only one boring enough to use it? Honestly if this is your best attempt at being a comedian, then don't give up that welfare cheque just yet! At least Miles, David, Rob, Colin, Gary etc etc make worthwhile contributions, but Bob Prudhomme and Paul Zwertbroek are our very own version of Laurel and Hardy. HaHaHaHa Yes. The forum IQ has definitely dropped since these two clowns, Prudhomme and Zwertbroek, joined.
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January 28, 2012, 06:53:46 AM
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Yes. The forum IQ has definitely dropped since these two clowns, Prudhomme and Zwertbroek, joined.
You guys working late tonight, Billdo? Lots of overtime?
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January 28, 2012, 04:43:55 PM
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I can't help you.
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February 04, 2012, 10:50:47 AM
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February 04, 2012, 11:59:51 PM
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A simple proof of the Zfilm being altered is the position of Greers left arm at the headshot, UP VERY HIGH AT APPROX. chin level in Nix, and much lower at approx abdomen level in the film supposedly shot by Zapruder...which makes it a Ztoon. This difference can be seen by a child. This proves alteration so we dont even need the very skilled scientists to prove it, although they have done a fine job and are most welcome. Alteration of Greers left arm position means ummm, a rational citizen needs to look at Greer as JFKs possible executioner....one more thing, wtf was Greer passing from his right hand to left hand in Ztoon for a full 2 seconds prior to the headshot? Why are you all avoiding this smoking gun imagery of JFKs killer getting ready to blast JFK????????
And to think it was right in front of us all these years!
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February 24, 2012, 08:20:44 AM
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Even if Zapruder had dropped his camera down. all we would have seen was more of the side of the limo. not the Newman's ,not the footpath, not even the road directly below the limo.  The Limo probably would have looked similar to this.  The upper socket area of the gif that you have posted shows the ghost images of the rear of a spectators head.  The source of these ghosts were slightly below the lower margin of the visible frames. Herbert
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February 24, 2012, 01:59:48 PM
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The upper socket area of the gif that you have posted shows the ghost images of the rear of a spectators head.
I think that has to be the white helmet of the police officer on a motorcycle on the right side of the limo, not a spectator. Since it is moving more slowly than the limo, it must be slowing down. If his slowing down is a response to a shot, this means the shot must have been earlier than z285 because he is already slowing down by z284. If you could do the same animation gif for frames 271-278 we might see something interesting.
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