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December 12, 2011, 12:25:43 PM
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   Dear forum members. Watch carefully at the right arm of Jacky and after that look close. White dots appearing in JFK bag. What is the cause of this? If you magnify it you can see it clear. Is this another shot fired at the president and carry Jacky something in here right hand? Please help me out! And a slow motion 
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December 12, 2011, 01:36:25 PM
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This is Nix frames 18 - 36  again, source is Groden:  the dot is visible before the head shot at frame 23 and after. this is Nix 22, one frame before the headshot:  and Nix 30 
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« Last Edit: December 12, 2011, 05:39:10 PM by Gerda Dunckel »
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December 12, 2011, 03:27:13 PM
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Hi gerda, the white spot is visible on the croft picture. Many believed that it was skull or brain remains, but it seems to be an attachement device. As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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« Last Edit: December 12, 2011, 03:33:55 PM by Thierry Speth »
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December 12, 2011, 04:03:00 PM
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@ Gerda and Thierry The dot is also visible in the Moorman picture but smaller. And the other question was, was there something in Jacky,s hand in the picture above (first picture)? Best regards Paul 
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« Last Edit: December 12, 2011, 04:06:21 PM by Paul Ernst »
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December 12, 2011, 04:58:42 PM
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Paul is right, i was not watching at the right white spot. The black spots look like dirt on the film, there are plenty on the zapruder frames.
Interesting white spot anyway.
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December 12, 2011, 05:50:27 PM
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something to do with the backwounds???????? 
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December 12, 2011, 06:20:28 PM
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@ Gerda and Thierry The dot is also visible in the Moorman picture but smaller. And the other question was, was there something in Jacky,s hand in the picture above (first picture)? Best regards Paul  Paul, The Moorman polaroid is full of grainy artifacts.  and Jackie's hand is resting on JFK's left shoulder in Moorman. I don't see anything in her hand in Nix. But it would be nice though if the Moorman polaroid would have been in color. I wonder if we would see blood where the backwound was supposed to be.
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« Last Edit: December 12, 2011, 06:26:31 PM by Gerda Dunckel »
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December 12, 2011, 06:27:32 PM
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Hi Gerda. Yes it is. But you can see clear the white spot! And in my opinion that's not grain or an artifact.
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December 12, 2011, 06:32:40 PM
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Hi Gerda. Yes it is grain. But you can see clear the white spot! Also in the other Moorman picture. And in my opinion that's not grain or an artifact. @ nix picture it could be a damage of the nix film. I'm not sure? I’m not a video expert. But I noticed this only and feel to post it on the forum. Best regards Paul.
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December 13, 2011, 03:13:58 AM
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Hi Paul! Thanks for posting this. It is a great thing to have this where everyone can see it.
Can anyone see what appears to be a small black object sliding away from JFK to the back of the limo?
You just get a glimpse of it in Paul's film but it is possible to see it actually travelling the length of the trunk in Gerda's short sequence.
Something that was in Jackie's hand or part of JFK's skull?
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December 13, 2011, 05:37:43 AM
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Hi Gerda. Yes it is grain. But you can see clear the white spot! Also in the other Moorman picture. And in my opinion that's not grain or an artifact. @ nix picture it could be a damage of the nix film. I'm not sure? I’m not a video expert. But I noticed this only and feel to post it on the forum. Best regards Paul. Is this a contest to display the worst possible quality prints?
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