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 December 09, 2011, 02:29:06 PM
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She does not at all look suspicious in any way. But looks can be deceiving sometimes.
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December 09, 2011, 02:46:44 PM
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I agree with Paul. In interviews, she appears extremely cold blooded in throwing Oswald under the bus.
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December 09, 2011, 03:57:17 PM
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I'll be honest. I am suspicious about Ruth Paine. Just a gut feeling I've got.  She looks like a nosy neighbor from "Bewitched"
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December 09, 2011, 04:04:20 PM
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Presumably a spook would have "I AM A SPOOK" tatooed on their forehead
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December 09, 2011, 04:09:08 PM
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I agree with Paul. In interviews, she appears extremely cold blooded in throwing Oswald under the bus.
Paine knew Oswald was a wife beater, controlling, a liar, under FBI investigation, attempting to send his family back to Russia. After the fact, she knew he killed JFK and attempted to shoot General Walker. Her entire life would be subject to scrutiny because of his actions. Some people even believe she played a role in a plot to kill the President. She has likely been hounded for decades. So is it any wonder that she wouldn't care for Oswald?
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December 09, 2011, 07:18:08 PM
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Paine knew Oswald was a wife beater, controlling, a  , under FBI investigation, attempting to send his family back to Russia. After the fact, she knew he killed JFK and attempted to shoot General Walker. Her entire life would be subject to scrutiny because of his actions. Some people even believe she played a role in a plot to kill the President. She has likely been hounded for decades. So is it any wonder that she wouldn't care for Oswald? Richard, this is too much logic and common sense for some.
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December 09, 2011, 07:23:45 PM
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Richard, this is too much logic and common sense for some.
Some? Maybe like you? I asked Fritz, using sign language, what you meant, but he said he's deaf and didn't hear you. He kept pointing to his ear.
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December 09, 2011, 08:06:37 PM
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I agree with Paul. In interviews, she appears extremely cold blooded in throwing Oswald under the bus.
Doug its funny that you should mention throwing Oswald under the bus. I was going to use the same line but decided to keep it short.  She went out of her way to incriminate him. Her 'we were expecting you" welcome to the cops is intriguingly prophetic.
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December 09, 2011, 08:25:30 PM
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Doug its funny that you should mention throwing Oswald under the bus. I was going to use the same line but decided to keep it short. She went out of her way to incriminate him. Her 'we were expecting you" welcome to the cops is intriguingly prophetic. By the time the police arrived Paine knew the shots had been fired from the building that LHO worked in. She also knew Oswald was likely the only person in the building who had defected to Russia and was under investigation by the FBI. So it would not have taken much to predict that law enforcement would be interested in him as a suspect even if it turned out he had nothing to do with it. Marina would have also known that Lee owned a rifle and had previously tried to assassinate General Walker. So she would have been uneasy. That would have been apparent to Paine.
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December 09, 2011, 10:16:38 PM
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By the time the police arrived Paine knew the shots had been fired from the building that LHO worked in. She also knew Oswald was likely the only person in the building who had defected to Russia and was under investigation by the FBI. So it would not have taken much to predict that law enforcement would be interested in him as a suspect even if it turned out he had nothing to do with it. Marina would have also known that Lee owned a rifle and had previously tried to assassinate General Walker. So she would have been uneasy. That would have been apparent to Paine.
Mr. Rose.... just as soon as we walked up on the porch, Ruth Paine came to the door. She apparently recognized us - she said, "I've been expecting you all," and we identified ourselves, and she said, "Well, I've been expecting you to come out. Come right on in."
Mr. Ball. Did she say why she had been expecting you?
Mr. Rose. She said, "Just as soon as I heard where the shooting happened, I knew there would be someone out."And then... Mrs. PAINE - I went to the door. They announced themselves as from both the sheriff's office and the Dallas Police Office, showed me at least one package or two. I was very surprised.
Mr. JENNER - Did you say anything?
Mrs. PAINE - I said nothing. I think I just dropped my jaw. And the man in front said by way of explanation "We have Lee Oswald in custody. He is charged with shooting an officer." This is the first I had any idea that Lee might be in trouble with the police or in any way involved in the day's events. I asked them to come in. They said they wanted to search the house. I asked if they had a warrant. They said they didn't. They said they could get the sheriff out here right away with one if I insisted. And I said no, that was all right, they could be my guests.
They then did search the house. I directed them to the fact that most of the Oswald's things were in storage in my garage and showed where the garage was, and to the room where Marina and the baby had stayed where they would find the other things which belonged to the Oswalds. Marina and I went with two or three of these police officers to the garage. She apparently wasn't suppose to even know what building Oswald worked at. Mr. Jenner. I heard you mention the Texas School Depository warehouse. Did you think the warehouse was at 411 Elm?
Mrs. Paine. No... [some material deleted] ...the first I realized that there was a building on Elm was when I heard on the television on the morning of the 22d of November that a shot had been fired from such a building.
Mr. Jenner. For the purpose of this record then I would like to emphasize you were under the impression then, were you, that Lee Harvey Oswald was employed?
Mrs. Paine. At the warehouse.
Mr. Jenner. Other than at 411, a place at 411 Elm?
Mrs. Paine. I thought he worked at the warehouse. I had in fact, pointed out the building to my children going into Dallas later after he had gained employment.
Mr. Jenner. Did you ever discuss with Lee Harvey Oswald where he actually was employed, that is the location of the building?
Mrs. Paine. No; I didn't.
Mr. Jenner. Did he ever mention it?
Mrs. Paine. No.Is all this new to you Richard?
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