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 December 02, 2011, 06:44:03 PM
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Circular logic again....
Either you can impeach the fold at Betzer or you must find a way to make it go away.
Can you do that?
Circular logic again....
Yes, you are using circular logic.Either you can impeach the fold at Betzer or you must find a way to make it go away.
There IS no 3" fold in Betzner 3. You cannot show that there is, or you would do so.Can you do that? Can YOU?
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December 02, 2011, 06:54:20 PM
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Circular logic again....
Yes, you are using circular logic.
Either you can impeach the fold at Betzer or you must find a way to make it go away.
There IS no 3" fold in Betzner 3. You cannot show that there is, or you would do so.
Can you do that?
Can YOU?
I have, and you know it. There MUST be a shadow from JFK"S neck falling over the shirt and jacket collar in Betzer. IT WHERE IS IT? . A 3"+ FOLD OF FABRIC, just like we see in Croft will make this DEMANDED shadow disappear. Unless you can show us something else that can make this DEMANDED shadow go away and then PROVE it will work by providing proof of concept photos, you simply LOSE. It can't be much simpler than that. You are still unable to answer these simple questions about YOUR claims...WHY? Sunlight and shadow does you in. Where oh where in your very silly diagram is the shadow from JFK's neck that MUST fall over the shirt collar and jacket collar that the angle of incidence DEMANDS? And your "expected shadow" is a shadow of what exactly? Your ignorance of the simple properties of light and shadow is simply ASTOUNDING! LMAO...again!
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December 02, 2011, 07:00:49 PM
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At least, I am not posting the same message in circles.
Herbert
Sure you are herb, over and over again. Now can you show us there is NO fold at Betzner?
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December 02, 2011, 07:12:35 PM
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Sure you are herb, over and over again.
Now can you show us there is NO fold at Betzner?
Craig, Can you please go the next step and tell us why a fold at Betzner has anything at all to do with the physical evidence as seen on the body itself.... or anything else related to the assassination Anyone saying the JFK's jacket did not bunch is simply wrong... it does and it did as evident by the image below... The shirt is another story since we do not have visual evidence of what the shirt is doing at the time.. you'd have to agree though that it is much less likely for the shirt to move up than the unanchored jacket... the bullet holes SHOULD be in two different places between the shirt and jacket.... but it's not. 'splain? yet there is no ACTIONABLE ITEM from your conclusion other than there was another bullet hole both in the clothing and the man and therefore another shooter therefore conspiracy... Is this what you are saying..?. or are you simply stopping at BETZNER=FOLD... and anything after that is for the rest of the world to discuss, (ie # of shots, direction, SBT, etc....) since you dont seem to ever commit to a position on anything of significance within this case other than what you see in photos and that which you believe are mistakes by others... accurate synopsis of your position Craig? just trying to understand your motiviation for presenting your BUNCHING argument, and what we should take away from it 
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December 02, 2011, 07:24:56 PM
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I have, and you know it. There MUST be a shadow from JFK"S neck falling over the shirt and jacket collar in Betzer. IT WHERE IS IT? . A 3"+ FOLD OF FABRIC, just like we see in Croft will make this DEMANDED shadow disappear. Unless you can show us something else that can make this DEMANDED shadow go away and then PROVE it will work by providing proof of concept photos, you simply LOSE.
It can't be much simpler than that.
There MUST be a shadow from JFK"S neck falling over the shirt and jacket collar in Betzer.You are talking nonsense gibberish. There is shadow from JFK"S neck falling over the shirt and jacket collar in Betzner. The ridge seen in this image (see: green circle) extends across the jacket in to the fabric in shadow. This ridge or fold is not an absurd 3". This ridge precludes the possibility of some other apocryphal 3" fold hidden in the shadow of the back. 
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December 02, 2011, 07:41:17 PM
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There MUST be a shadow from JFK"S neck falling over the shirt and jacket collar in Betzer.You are talking nonsense gibberish. There is shadow from JFK"S neck falling over the shirt and jacket collar in Betzner. The ridge seen in this image (see: green circle) extends across the jacket in to the fabric in shadow. This ridge or fold is not an absurd 3". This ridge precludes the possibility of some other apocryphal 3" fold hidden in the shadow of the back. LOL! Your ignorance of how the SUN works continues unabated. Please detail exactly how your so called shadow is possible given the position of JFK in relation to the sun at that moment Betzner was taken. Doing so you will show us WHAT object is casting the shadow you claim you see in Betzner. Pretty simple stuff Miles. So answer it.
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