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 March 24, 2009, 02:30:39 PM
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In the Bell film, we can see Abraham Zapruder walking away from the pedestal, and Marylin Sitzman heading for the Pergola shelter. In the Groden frame which Robin has uploaded, we can see Marilyn Sitzman, Charles Hester, and a dark silhouetted figure already inside the Pergola shelter. Is this Zapruder?...Did he come back to the shelter between Bell's panning of the scene? According to Zapruder, he headed straight back to his office muttering to himself " They've killed him, they've killed him" If it's not Zapruder, the question must be asked...Who Is It?  <![CDATA[As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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March 24, 2009, 03:23:58 PM
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Duncan what our your thoughts about the Zapruder film being an hoax and that there is "another film"?
Quote from: David Will on Today at 02:54:06 PM Duncan what our your thoughts about the Zapruder film being an hoax and that there is "another film"? I think the Zapruder film is genuine apart from the mistakes made by Life Magazine.
Of course, never having seen the original, like 99.9+% of the research community, I could be wrong, but in my opinion whoever was supposed to have made the alterations simply did not have the time to do so.
It would also have involved pre planning, alteration of the Nix and Bronson films, and some of the photographic record too...but the most important thing you need to ask yourself is........Why?
If they had something to hide, they could just have stolen it and destroyed it..It's all a total nonsense..
I used to believe in what is known as the " Other Film " shot from a similar location to that of Zapruder, but I have since come to my senses.
I even at one point believed that Sitzman could have taken it, and produced enhancements to prove my at the time nutty point.
The only other known missing film, or possibly a photograph that I want to see, is the Babushka one.
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March 24, 2009, 03:34:47 PM
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Duncan, i doubt that this is Zapruder. Take a look at this nice Bell Gif from Chris in one of the last posts. As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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March 24, 2009, 03:36:14 PM
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Duncan,
I asked myself the exact same question right after Robin had posted the Bell frame, although I have noticed this before and have often wondered who that could be inside the pergola shelter.
We have seen the footage where Zapruder is heading towards the Elm Street extension/TSBD....in that general direction. And Sitzman towards the pergola. I almost think that in this frame from
Bell in which Robin has posted... that Zapruder may be just out of frame...to the right of Hester as we view this frame. Sitzman has not yet had time to reach the pergola.... You raise a good
question. WHO is it???
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March 24, 2009, 04:03:25 PM
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maybe nothing, if so, pardon my ignorance 'cause i can't find a pic of Hester at the moment, but who is this man?
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March 24, 2009, 04:06:27 PM
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Duncan, i doubt that this is Zapruder. Take a look at this nice Bell Gif from Chris in one of the last posts. As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginMartin Martin and Rick, The reason I ask the question is because Bell pans the camera to the left, and there is a time gap which I calculate to be no more than 3 seconds before the camera pans back to the same area which still shows Sitzman. Robins frame is from this second sequence. Peronally, unless Bell stopped filming between the two scenes and the gap is longer than 3 seconds, and I see no evidence of that, I do not think it can be Zapruder.  Duncan
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March 24, 2009, 04:07:28 PM
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maybe nothing, if so, pardon my ignorance 'cause i can't find a pic of Hester at the moment, but who is this man?
That's Hester and his wife.
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March 24, 2009, 04:08:21 PM
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ah, good! thanks!
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March 24, 2009, 04:09:23 PM
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Duncan, i doubt that this is Zapruder. Take a look at this nice Bell Gif from Chris in one of the last posts. As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginMartin Martin and Rick, The reason I ask the question is because Bell pans the camera to the left, and there is a time gap which I calculate to be no more than 3 seconds before the camera pans back to the same area which still shows Sitzman. Robins frame is from this second sequence. Peronally, unless Bell stopped filming between the two scenes and the gap is longer than 3 seconds, and I see no evidence of that, I do not think it can be Zapruder. Duncan Duncan, I agree with you. I do not see how that could be Zapruder inside the shelter.
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