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I have read for the first timearticles about John Conally costume, which would validate SBT theory at frame 224. I made a search about this
on this forum. The argument is about a movement on Conally's jacket between frame 223 and 224

According to Posner and Von Pein, it is the definitive proof ( "now and forever" sic) that Conally was hit at z224.
see this pic and this pic
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but conally's jacket was already moving at z222 see this pic

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Hypothesis of a bullet at 224, flipping Conally's jacket is wrong IMHO, and we see on Z222 that kennedy's hands are already raising to his throat. On the stabilised pictures, we do not see Conally letting his hat fall on the ground despite a wound in the wrist. who can explain that?





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Connally still has a firm grip on his hat.







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« Last Edit: October 19, 2011, 12:22:52 PM by Robin Unger »

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John and Nellie were inside the Limo and as such, are the closest wittnesses to what really happened.

I will take there word for how and when Connally was hit.





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« Last Edit: October 19, 2011, 12:21:17 PM by Robin Unger »

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I have read for the first timearticles about John Conally costume, which would validate SBT theory at frame 224. I made a search about this
on this forum. The argument is about a movement on Conally's jacket between frame 223 and 224

According to Posner and Von Pein, it is the definitive proof ( "now and forever" sic) that Conally was hit at z224.
see this pic and this pic
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but conally's jacket was already moving at z222 see this pic

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Hypothesis of a bullet at 224, flipping Conally's jacket is wrong IMHO, and we see on Z222 that kennedy's hands are already raising to his throat. On the stabilised pictures, we do not see Conally letting his hat fall on the ground despite a wound in the wrist. who can explain that?





Thierry,

To be a little more specific, according to the Life Magazine article that Robin has posted his frames from, on page 43, it states the bullet "smashed the wrist bone into seven or eight pieces".

So he his still holding onto his hat from at least 230-272 and no blood has appeared on his white sleeve.

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« Last Edit: October 19, 2011, 05:08:08 PM by Chris Davidson »

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Hi Robin...

I have never put much credibilityton the notion that just because the wrist was shattered... it should not mean that it was impossible for his hand to have simply locked down on the hat....

He's holding it well into the z300's I believe....  and in the same cocked position we see earlier...   wasn't he still holding his hat when he got to Parkland?

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I have read for the first timearticles about John Conally costume, which would validate SBT theory at frame 224. I made a search about this
on this forum. The argument is about a movement on Conally's jacket between frame 223 and 224

According to Posner and Von Pein, it is the definitive proof ( "now and forever" sic) that Conally was hit at z224.
see this pic and this pic
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but conally's jacket was already moving at z222 see this pic

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Hypothesis of a bullet at 224, flipping Conally's jacket is wrong IMHO, and we see on Z222 that kennedy's hands are already raising to his throat. On the stabilised pictures, we do not see Conally letting his hat fall on the ground despite a wound in the wrist. who can explain that?






BTW, no WC defender has yet been able to explain to me how their Single Bullet can go through JFK's hands balled up into fists directly in front of his throat at Z-224 to hit Connally without leaving some damage to
his hands. It took Dale Myers about 400 hours on his computer to fudge his drawing to make the bullet go BETWEEN JFK's fingers spread out.


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BTW, no WC defender has yet been able to explain to me how their Single Bullet can go through JFK's hands balled up into fists directly in front of his throat at Z-224 to hit Connally without leaving some damage to
his hands. It took Dale Myers about 400 hours on his computer to fudge his drawing to make the bullet go BETWEEN JFK's fingers spread out.


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Silliness.

JFK's hands would not have come up until after the bullet went through him.


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Marsh can not even comprehend a simple time stamp.  How will he ever comprehend the evidence?

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Silliness.

JFK's hands would not have come up until after the bullet went through him.

That's my point. The fact that we see his hands up in front of his throat at frame 224 proves that he was hit by the bullet at least 4 frames earlier.
If you want a SBT you have to move it back to at least frame220.


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I think Connally picked frame 240 when he was hit.

There you can see his cheeks puff out and his shoulder is driven down.

If he was hit around that frame there is noway he was hit  with the shot that hit Kennedy as he time between the 2 shots would not allow Oswald to get off 2 shots.

The frames went though the camera at 18.3 frames per second and the time it took to fire a shot and work the bolt is about 2.3 seconds that is without taking the time to aim the rifle.


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Hi Mark,

According to JBC himself.

Life Magazine- Nov25,1966



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Thnaks Anthony, Chris, Mark, Robin  this is usefull for me , the mystery of wrist and hat after 234 remain. I'm seriously asking myself if he was hit in the wrist by another bullet.


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