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 September 28, 2011, 05:57:01 PM
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Small 18 - Frame GIF Looks like Babushka lady standing near the motorcycle. ? I think it's possible we may also partially see Moorman sticking out from behind the next pillar to the right ? And as previously mentioned we appear to see Sitzman walking towards the pergola entrance, and possibly Zapruder just at the right hand corner of the pedestal, there appears to be some movement in that area, hard to say for sure. Which car are we looking at ? 
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September 28, 2011, 06:22:39 PM
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Bell Frame. What is the Paschall Timeline. Presumably it is just before this Bell segment was filmed showing Sitzman,Zapruder, Hargis. ? 
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September 28, 2011, 06:46:06 PM
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Life Magazine Including Bell frame showing Hargis crossing elm st towards Babushka's position, and a Paschall frame showing the limo entering the underpass followed closely by the follow up car. Presumably less than 1 - minute after kennedy was assassinated. 
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September 28, 2011, 11:28:34 PM
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Babusha standing to the right of Hargis's motorcycle. ( Bond 4 Crop )   Robin, thanks for identifying the cycles we see in Bond 4 for everyone. This reinforces my point that McLain did not rush out of Dealey Plaza immediately after the shots. Certainly didn't turn on his siren immediately after the shots. The siren is mechanical so if he is just idling down the street you wouldn't hear his siren. I would like to see someone nail down the exact time. I don't think we can pin it down to the minute and second. But maybe close to how many seconds after the head shot. I was working on this with Bob Cutler many years ago and we could never resolve the times to within less than a gap of 15 seconds. I think it may be theoretically possible to synchronize all the films.
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September 29, 2011, 03:20:27 AM
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Robin, thanks for identifying the cycles we see in Bond 4 for everyone. This reinforces my point that McLain did not rush out of Dealey Plaza immediately after the shots. Certainly didn't turn on his siren immediately after the shots. The siren is mechanical so if he is just idling down the street you wouldn't hear his siren.
I would like to see someone nail down the exact time. I don't think we can pin it down to the minute and second. But maybe close to how many seconds after the head shot. I was working on this with Bob Cutler many years ago and we could never resolve the times to within less than a gap of 15 seconds.
I think it may be theoretically possible to synchronize all the films.
Thanks Anthony Cancellare 1  Bothun 
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September 29, 2011, 05:57:54 AM
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Bell Frame. What is the Paschall Timeline. Presumably it is just before this Bell segment was filmed showing Sitzman,Zapruder, Hargis. ? Robin, That would be correct. Just before the Bell segment you have supplied This should be the car you are looking for matching the Paschall gif. This is also from Bell. As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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September 29, 2011, 11:08:00 AM
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Thanks Chris Always appreciate your help. As i recall, you were one of the people who assisted me in making the correct motorcycle identifications. along with Todd Vaughan, Gary Mack, and Martin Hinrichs. Bell frame: 
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October 04, 2011, 01:58:07 PM
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Hi robin - great spot -i agree
may be obvious but also top of Brehm's white shirt and head sitting down too?
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