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 March 20, 2009, 11:38:01 PM
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BOWERS: "Directly in line, towards the mouth of the underpass, there were two men. One man, middle-aged, or slightly older, fairly heavy-set, in a white shirt, fairly dark trousers. Another younger man, about mid-twenties, in either a plaid shirt or plaid coat or jacket." [Emphasis added]
BOWERS seemingly places the two men in an area that was "directly in line" with his view of the "mouth of the underpass," which, of course, is the area on the west end of the stockade fence, opposite the east end where MACK and WHITE place Badge Man and Hard Hat Man. Although he doesn't expressly say so, BOWERS seems to be saying that the men are behind the stockade fence, since BOWERS is looking south from the railroad tower and cannot see the grassy incline that leads down to the mouth of the underpass.
I am wondering if this may be the same two men seen in the "Bell frames" standing on the north end of the overpass near the mouth of the underpass. ?
Can these guys be seen from the Bowers signal tower.
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« Last Edit: March 21, 2009, 02:40:41 AM by Robin Unger »
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March 21, 2009, 12:59:16 AM
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Robin, i found it.
Mr. BALL - Did you see any activity in this high ground above Elm after the shot?
Mr. BOWERS - At the time of the shooting there seemed to be some commotion, and immediately following there was a motorcycle policeman who shot nearly all of the way to the top of the incline.
Mr. BALL - On his motorcycle?
Mr. BOWERS - Yes.
Bowers was under the impression that the motorcycle officer, Clyde A. Haygood, shot all the way up the incline on his motorbike, however, Bowers could not see the south side (or front side) of the fence. Had he been able to see the south side of the fence he would have reported what numerous films and photographs show [See: Trask, Richard B., “Picture of the Pain,” pp.175, 210-11, 333-34, 405, 427] – the motorcycle officer dumped his bike at the foot of Elm street and ran up the incline toward the west end of the fence where photographs show him standing. Bowers described his arrival at the west end of the stockade fence:
Mr. BOWERS - He came up into this area where there are some trees, and where I had described the two men were in the general vicinity of this.
Well motorcycle officers have this typical helmet and therefore clearly and easy identifyable as cycle officers.
He might think he was on his bike while only saw his head above the fence?
If i would had been the questioner...i would ask further about this "officer on bike issue".
Mr. Ball did not. Unfortunately.
I see nothing that can block bowers view to the fence.
Martin
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March 21, 2009, 01:10:22 AM
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That's it Martin. QUOTE: Mr. BOWERS - At the time of the shooting there seemed to be some commotion, and immediately following there was a motorcycle policeman who shot nearly all of the way to the top of the incline. Mr. BALL - On his motorcycle? Mr. BOWERS - Yes. Mr. BALL - Did he come by way of Elm Street? Mr. BOWERS - He was part of the motorcade and had left it for some reason, which I did not know. Mr. BALL - He came up--- Mr. BOWERS - He came almost to the top and I believe abandoned his motorcycle for a moment and then got on it and proceeded, I don't know Mr. BALL - How did he get up? Mr. BOWERS - He just shot up over the curb and up. Mr. BALL - He didn't come then by way of Ell, which dead ends there? Mr. BOWERS - No; he left the motorcade and came up the incline on the motorcycle. Mr. BALL - Was his motorcycle directed toward any particular people? Mr. BOWERS - He came up into this area where there are some trees, and where I had described the two men were in the general vicinity of this. Mr. BALL - Were the two men there at the time? Mr. BOWERS - I--as far as I know, one of them was. The other I could not say. The darker dressed man was too hard to distinguish from the trees. The white shirt, yes; I think he was. As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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March 21, 2009, 01:22:36 AM
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Thanks Robin Thats the testimony i found. As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginNot the same. Arghh, thats the reason why i have problems to beleive (Robins "believe") written witness reports. Words can be easy edited. You know i'am suspicious. A video from that statement would make it believeable. Martin
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March 21, 2009, 02:46:43 AM
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You are right to be suspicious Martin.
after all it did come from the WC. police;;
Hehe, the WCE....Warren Commission Editors. Should i use Wecht's words...it belongs to Gullivers.......ouch, i did not. I admit sometimes i struggled in the past and was almost on the turn the LN's might be told the truth. But after my journey in 3d it must have been a conspiracy. In particular the SBT is not working at all. Not for a moment. Another important part is the backyard photographs. They are faked. No doubt. I can state this from the bottom of my heart. Well, when the bullet proof evidence of SBT(hoax) and it's not working trajectory is available and accepted they will tell: Hey, it was Alek Hidell Oswald...the twin brother of Lee helping him at the fence or whatever position. The backyard photos are much more delicate. Who did it, who's got the power to do? It must have come from a very high level in governement and a big coverup would have been in question. That's the reason why Gary Mack emailed me with his concerns and doubts. We amateur researcher should never be underestimated. Lie have short legs. Martin
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March 23, 2009, 03:38:23 AM
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Back to the topic.
It looks like Bowers had an excellent view to the fence.
In the area between the fence and the pergola he had also a clear view to Elm.
May he saw Officer Haygood riding down close to the curb (without seeing him parking)
while he seconds later saw his head rushing at the incline to the bridge?
It was propably his impression he remains on the cycle.
A possible scenario.
What do you think?
Martin
Makes sense to me, Martin.
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