LN and CT Rigidities

[Benjamin Cole]

After decades of mostly fruitless research, even primary research into the JFKA, and participation in forums, I have come to some conclusions...not about the JFKA, but the JFKA research "community."

The vast majority of CT'ers rigidly insist LHO was entirely and completely innocent of the JFKA. They even hold to LHO's total innocence if they posit the JFKA was a CIA plot, and LHO was a long-time CIA asset or agent living in house at time run by the CIA asset Ruth Paine.

Why not assume, if the CIA waxed JFK, then LHO was a part of the plot, even if later LHO was made into a patsy and then murdered?

No!

It is chiseled into granite: LHO was only packing book-boxes on 11.22, in fact was on the street or somewhere at the time of the JFKA, and after the JFKA he went home and got a gun...oh, well never mind.

On the other side of the coin we have the LN'ers: LHO could only have acted alone. Absolutely. No other explanation is even possible!

This despite statements even by WC members that they were not satisfied with the WC results.

The third way (and my way!)---that LHO was part of a small JFKA plot, not connected to other powerful entities (except possibly tangentially) is not tolerated by either LN'ers or CT'ers.

So it goes.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

[John Corbett]

The time for being open minded about Oswald's guilt expired a long time ago when the WC presented overwhelming evidence that Oswald was JFK's assassin and the murderer of J. D. Tippit. My position on the possibility he was part of a conspiracy has been steadfast over the years. Not a single piece of credible evidence has ever surfaced that Oswald had even a single accomplice in his crime. That does not rule out the theoretical possibility there were accomplices, but after 62 years, the lack of such evidence makes that a highly remote possibility. If you ever come across such evidence, I'll be more than happy to look at it objectively. I have no interest in conspiracy theories based on assumptions and speculations which is the case for every JFKA conspiracy theory I have ever seen proposed.

[Benjamin Cole]

McCloy of the WC made the same observation as you...although McCloy, in a conversation with Blakely, seemed to hint he thought there was more to the LHO story than known. "We just couldn't find evidence of it." said McCloy, or something to that effect.

Of course, other members of the WC ended up expressing reservations about the WC finding, including Richard Russell (for reasons related to my reasons), Hale Boggs and Cooper.

I still wonder why State Dep't careers were ended for even asking about LHO-G2 links.

I have belabored my views herein why I think there were likely three physical participants in the JFKA, so I will let it rest.

I have shown my case for a JFKAC to my satisfaction, but since I cannot even begin to show who were LHO's confederates, I won't pretend to know who they were.

The leftists and rightists, and anti-Semitic crackpots who fabricate elaborate JFKA CT's...well, they have never come even close to making a case.

But keep in mid---a very small, ad hoc informal plot, involving only the immediate participants, would be impossible to detect without actual capture of those participants. Only one was captured, and he soon dead.

[John Corbett]

McCloy of the WC made the same observation as you...although McCloy, in a conversation with Blakely, seemed to hint he thought there was more to the LHO story than known. "We just couldn't find evidence of it." said McCloy, or something to that effect.

Of course, other members of the WC ended up expressing reservations about the WC finding, including Richard Russell (for reasons related to my reasons), Hale Boggs and Cooper.

I still wonder why State Dep't careers were ended for even asking about LHO-G2 links.

I have belabored my views herein why I think there were likely three physical participants in the JFKA, so I will let it rest.

I have shown my case for a JFKAC to my satisfaction, but since I cannot even begin to show who were LHO's confederates, I won't pretend to know who they were.

The leftists and rightists, and anti-Semitic crackpots who fabricate elaborate JFKA CT's...well, they have never come even close to making a case.

But keep in mid---a very small, ad hoc informal plot, involving only the immediate participants, would be impossible to detect without actual capture of those participants. Only one was captured, and he soon dead.

You made my point for me. Your comments are rife with speculation and completely devoid of any credible evidence. I'll make the same challenge to you that I've made countless times over the years which no conspiracy hobbyist has been able to meet and few have tried.

List the three best pieces of evidence you have that someone other than Oswald took part in the assassinatiion:

1 _______________________________________________________

2 _______________________________________________________

3 _______________________________________________________


Notice I asked for evidence, not arguments or speculation.

[Tom Graves]

A very small, ad hoc informal plot, involving only the immediate participants, would be impossible to detect without actual capture of those participants. Only one was captured, and he soon dead.

Percentagewise, how much of the evidence in the Warren Commission Report and the HSCA Report points towards those other two, three, or [fill in the blank]?

[Benjamin Cole]

TC-

I have posted many times the reasons why a lone gunsel is not a plausible explanation for the wounds received by JFK and JBC, nor the rapidity of shots.

The smell of gunsmoke in the DP-GK area, in the immediate aftermath of the JFKA also defies explanation.

You disagree with my explanations. So it goes.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

I plan a post soon on why Gov. JBC is holding his hat in his right hand at Z-272.

[John Corbett]

TC-

I have posted many times the reasons why a lone gunsel is not a plausible explanation for the wounds received by JFK and JBC, nor the rapidity of shots.

Tell us how rapidly you think the shots were fired and why those shots couldn't have all been fired by Oswald with his Carcano rifle?

The smell of gunsmoke in the DP-GK area, in the immediate aftermath of the JFKA also defies explanation.

There is a very simple explanation. If people smelled gunpowder on Elm St, it was the residue discharged from Oswald's Carcano rifle that drifted down to ground level following his three shots. Oswald was the only one firing a gun during the assassination.